Dulak
14 years ago
lee or underwood ... ya see whom would you rather have as your corner lee or underwood or harris ...

we like to pride ourselves on great backups - but what if one of our 3 main corners would go out with a injury ... whose in next? ...

I certainly wouldnt mind harris being in with someone else being out ie lee or underwood -

anyways - no use conjecturing and wishing - Ill miss that guy in his man to man coverage on corners - was nothing like his pump and run and physicality to the opposing receivers.

I do agree that ST probably makes a difference -

least the dude was honerable enough to not play for a nfc team.

Again he was my favorite packer and I will surely miss him.
Wade
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14 years ago
I have no real problem with releasing Harris. It's sad in that particular way that releasing a long-time veteran is always sad. But unless you're willing to do a Jim Brown or Barry Sanders, no one gets to choose when he leaves the team.

But that said, it definitely sounds like the Packers could have handled things better. The fact that "it is time" doesn't change the fact that how you terminate should matter to you.

I look at the quotes from McCarthy, and Harris describing what Thompson/McCarthy did/didn't do, and I see the kind of manager/boss that drives me nuts. The person who treats people as machines in an industrial process.

If Harris has to go to Thompson's box and confront him before Thompson admits what's happening, what does that say about how Thompson and McCarthy view their employees?

If you're going to be a manager, at some point you're going to have to let people go. That's part of your job. But how you approach that letting go reveals something about you as a person.

If Vandermause has the facts right here, IMO the manner of this release does not reflect very well on Thompson/McCarthy.

Sentimentality is not needed. But neither is treating a long-time valuable employee like a worn-out machine.
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Greg C.
14 years ago
I see where you're coming from, Wade. Possibly they didn't tell Al because they didn't want the info to be tweeted or something and become a distraction before Sunday night's game. But maybe they should've trusted him with the info, especially considering how long and how well he had played for the Packers. Also, if there had been an injury or a really bad performance on Sunday night that changed the picture, Al may have been activated on Monday, and they would rather that he did not know how close he was to being cut. So I think it's a matter of trust, and maybe they should've trusted Al enough to let him know what was going on.
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macbob
14 years ago

I see where you're coming from, Wade. Possibly they didn't tell Al because they didn't want the info to be tweeted or something and become a distraction before Sunday night's game. But maybe they should've trusted him with the info, especially considering how long and how well he had played for the Packers. Also, if there had been an injury or a really bad performance on Sunday night that changed the picture, Al may have been activated on Monday, and they would rather that he did not know how close he was to being cut. So I think it's a matter of trust, and maybe they should've trusted Al enough to let him know what was going on.

"Greg C." wrote:



Greg-The article said that Ted told Al Sat night and Al flew home to Fla Sun morning, wasn't even in GB for the Dallas game. If he thought he was going to be activated on Mon I don't think he'd have headed to Fla.

It was us the fans (and the other 31 teams in the league) who didn't have advance warning, and I guess I can't fault Ted for that. If there had been an injury Sun, then the Packers could have avoided the going-to-release-Al thrash and simply activated him on Mon.
Greg C.
14 years ago

Greg-The article said that Ted told Al Sat night and Al flew home to Fla Sun morning, wasn't even in GB for the Dallas game. If he thought he was going to be activated on Mon I don't think he'd have headed to Fla.

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Yes, but the reason Al found out about it on Saturday was that he went to Ted's office of his own volition and asked what was going on. And even then, he had to press the issue to get an answer. So it appears that Ted did not intend to tell him until Monday. That could be perceived as kind of crappy on Ted's part, though I don't think it's an easy call.
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Johnson
14 years ago
He got Favre'd.
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wpr
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14 years ago
It would be ber if GB met Miami in the SB and Rodgers throws the winning TD to Jennings over Harris.
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evad04
14 years ago

He got Favre'd.

"Johnson" wrote:


The two situations are comparable in almost no ways.

My goodness, get a new script.
William Henderson didn't have to run people over. His preferred method was levitation.
"I'm a reasonable man, get off my case."
Zero2Cool
14 years ago

He got Favre'd.

"evad04" wrote:


The two situations are comparable in almost no ways.

My goodness, get a new script.

"Johnson" wrote:



He's the artist formerly known as Oskar_Limga or something and I-Am-Ignorant.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
oskarliminga lives! Though he seems to write more articulately now than he used to.
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