Formo
14 years ago


What makes this bazaar is how they traded to get him and didn't use him. This is on Chilly. And I'm starting to get on the bandwagon that if he doesn't pull his crap together that he's gotta go.

"mi_keys" wrote:



Starting to? I know Viking fans that have wanted Chilly's nuts on the barbeque for years now. He is not head coaching material in this league, end of discussion. I know you feel compelled to defend your team's decision but let it go man, just let it go.

"Formo" wrote:



The majority of Viking fans that have wanted Chilly out have been cheering against the Vikes since Chilly's arrival (the ones I've met/talked to). So they don't count. The fact of the matter is, since Chilly has been here, prior to this year, his teams have progressed, not regressed, in the W-L category. This year is definitely the exception to the rule.

I'm not saying his day-to-day coaching mindset is flawless. But the teams he has assembled, drafted, and put together have been very exceptional. Hell, the man has 2 rookie of the year award winners in his 4 1/2 year tenure as the Vikings coach. One of the ROY was passed on by a more than a few teams because of his past. Now the kid is a bona-fide NFL stud, despite his migraines.

The guy would be a much better coach, IMO, if he would lose his control freak tendencies and call some more PA/counter run plays (read: Make his play-calling a bit more imaginative). This is where he's lost a few fans support, and is starting to lose mine.

To blatantly call him out as a non-NFL head coach during his first stint as a head coach is premature. And from your point of view, that's more wishful thinking than anything else. I'm hoping hes the Vikings version of Bill Beli-cheat, or the Cows' Jimmy Johnson, or the Stillers' Bill Cowher. He just has to figure his learning curve, go through his bumps, take his lumps and learn from them. As far as right now, it's not looking like he is. I hope I'm wrong.

"DakotaT" wrote:



You know, I think he has one of the better eyes for talent in the league. From my understanding he's been very involved in drafts and other player acquisitions in which case there is no denying he's done very well in building a very talented team.

That said, he is one of the worst game day coaches. His play calling as you mentioned is pretty poor. But in general I think he is just spineless. This is the first year I think he's faced real adversity as the head coach of Minnesota and your team is absolutely falling apart.

In my opinion, he would be better suited for a scouting or general manager role. I don't think he'll ever be a good head coach though.

Edit: I also find it disgusting that anyone would cheer against their own team just because they didn't like a coach or anyone else associated with the team. You should never cheer against your team. I think Bielema is a terrible coach but I'm not going to complain with the Badgers in the hunt for a Big 10 title. I'd much rather have him prove me horribly wrong.

"Formo" wrote:



Actually, the Vikings were in a very similar situation in Chilly's first or second year. The year that they had Brad Johnson and eventually T-Jack was tossed to the wolves. That year was to be expected as they didn't have the talent they do now, but as far as frantic mode goes, it's about the same from what I can tell.

I agree with you that he's probably best in a GM role than anything else. I love how he puts teams together.
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Formo
14 years ago

its official Moss is gone

LOL

"longtimefan" wrote:



Actually, it's not official. The only word we have is Chilly's word to the team, in which he's said that 'Randy's gone right now'. He could have meant that Randy is not going to join 'us as a team' until later this week and the players understood him as saying Randy is being or has been waived/cut from the team.

All these reports are media reports. The team has not come out and said anything to the media yet. The NFL has not gotten any waivers from the Vikings, and Moss agent hasn't been notified yet (made his comments as per what he's heard from the media).

I'm not saying this isn't going to happen. Who knows with Chilly and this team. But I am saying nothing is official yet (as of 0345 Tuesday). My hope is that the WIlf's catch wind of this and override Chilly's decision (if he really meant to cut Moss). I mean, the Vikes DID give out a 3rd round pick and only had him for just over 3 weeks. This is not a fair shake.
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14 years ago

its official Moss is gone

LOL

"Formo" wrote:



Actually, it's not official. The only word we have is Chilly's word to the team, in which he's said that 'Randy's gone right now'. He could have meant that Randy is not going to join 'us as a team' until later this week and the players understood him as saying Randy is being or has been waived/cut from the team.

All these reports are media reports. The team has not come out and said anything to the media yet. The NFL has not gotten any waivers from the Vikings, and Moss agent hasn't been notified yet (made his comments as per what he's heard from the media).

I'm not saying this isn't going to happen. Who knows with Chilly and this team. But I am saying nothing is official yet (as of 0345 Tuesday). My hope is that the WIlf's catch wind of this and override Chilly's decision (if he really meant to cut Moss). I mean, the Vikes DID give out a 3rd round pick and only had him for just over 3 weeks. This is not a fair shake.

"longtimefan" wrote:



Keep dreaming.
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longtimefan
14 years ago

its official Moss is gone

LOL

"Formo" wrote:



Actually, it's not official. The only word we have is Chilly's word to the team, in which he's said that 'Randy's gone right now'. He could have meant that Randy is not going to join 'us as a team' until later this week and the players understood him as saying Randy is being or has been waived/cut from the team.

All these reports are media reports. The team has not come out and said anything to the media yet. The NFL has not gotten any waivers from the Vikings, and Moss agent hasn't been notified yet (made his comments as per what he's heard from the media).

I'm not saying this isn't going to happen. Who knows with Chilly and this team. But I am saying nothing is official yet (as of 0345 Tuesday). My hope is that the WIlf's catch wind of this and override Chilly's decision (if he really meant to cut Moss). I mean, the Vikes DID give out a 3rd round pick and only had him for just over 3 weeks. This is not a fair shake.

"longtimefan" wrote:




WOW so at 4 am today you still didnt know YOUR head coach released a statement ON YOUR TEAMS website?

http://www.vikings.com/news/article-1/Statement-From-Vikings-Head-Coach-Brad-Childress/74ccf06d-7616-41d3-aed3-f4c9935f40be 

Eden Prairie, MN (November 1, 2010) This decision was made based on what we thought was in the best interests of the Minnesota Vikings, both in the short and long term, said Head Coach Brad Childress. We wish Randy the best as he moves forward in his career.

As stated ITS OFFICIAL
Zero2Cool
14 years ago
It's not "official", but Randy Moss is as good as gone. Once the waiver list is final today at I think 4pm EST, then it's official.

But yeah, Randy's gone. Bills here he comes!! lol
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Formo
14 years ago

its official Moss is gone

LOL

"longtimefan" wrote:



Actually, it's not official. The only word we have is Chilly's word to the team, in which he's said that 'Randy's gone right now'. He could have meant that Randy is not going to join 'us as a team' until later this week and the players understood him as saying Randy is being or has been waived/cut from the team.

All these reports are media reports. The team has not come out and said anything to the media yet. The NFL has not gotten any waivers from the Vikings, and Moss agent hasn't been notified yet (made his comments as per what he's heard from the media).

I'm not saying this isn't going to happen. Who knows with Chilly and this team. But I am saying nothing is official yet (as of 0345 Tuesday). My hope is that the WIlf's catch wind of this and override Chilly's decision (if he really meant to cut Moss). I mean, the Vikes DID give out a 3rd round pick and only had him for just over 3 weeks. This is not a fair shake.

"Formo" wrote:




WOW so at 4 am today you still didnt know YOUR head coach released a statement ON YOUR TEAMS website?

http://www.vikings.com/news/article-1/Statement-From-Vikings-Head-Coach-Brad-Childress/74ccf06d-7616-41d3-aed3-f4c9935f40be 

Eden Prairie, MN (November 1, 2010) This decision was made based on what we thought was in the best interests of the Minnesota Vikings, both in the short and long term, said Head Coach Brad Childress. We wish Randy the best as he moves forward in his career.

As stated ITS OFFICIAL

"longtimefan" wrote:



A 'statement' on a team-based website isn't anything official. According to the NFL, Randy was/is a Viking. There are these things called 'waivers' and teams have to abide by their regs.
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14 years ago
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longtimefan
14 years ago

its official Moss is gone

LOL

"Formo" wrote:



Actually, it's not official.

A 'statement' on a team-based website isn't anything official. According to the NFL, Randy was/is a Viking. There are these things called 'waivers' and teams have to abide by their regs.

"longtimefan" wrote:



With 4:00 p.m. ET come and gone in New York, the official Tuesday waiver wire has been released. Per multiple reports, Randy Moss officially has been cut by the Vikings.



THE OFFICIAL RANDY IS WAIVED LINK 

Do we need more proof to make you believe?
Greg C.
14 years ago
I don't think a "boatload" of teams will try to claim Moss, as the anonymous GM in that linked article says. I think he will clear waivers. It will be interesting to see what happens.

To me, it's insane to think the Patriots would claim Moss. He left New England on very bad terms. What has he done in the past four weeks to convince the Patriots that he has turned over a new leaf? His behavior and his level of play have each declined while he was away.

I guess to a lot of fans and some coaches and GMs, speedy receivers are like crack cocaine to addicts. They will do anything to get their hands on it, no matter how clear it is that it will only make things worse. But I think the league has wised up to Moss at this point. And I certainly think the Patriots have.
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longtimefan
14 years ago
If he left under bad terms, why all the hugs form the owner, coach and team mates?

I think---he wanted more money they said no, he said release me, so they did

It was ALL business, and not production driven

but thats just me
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