It's very possible the thread has since been merged, Greg. I agree with you. I think bringing Moss to the Packers would set Rodgers back, not help him.

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Setting Rodgers back is a very interesting point, especially considering his struggles since Finley went down (possibly due to the emphasis on Finley entering this season).

But at this point, having no RB on the horizon with speed whom McCarthy can trust offers very little in the way of opening up our offense.

Moss, for all his troubles, is perfect for attracting man-to-man with safety help over top coverages the Packers have seen. All of a sudden, you have the ability to free up other receivers by giving them single coverage deep / underneath.

With the personnel, I'm not sure we can do anything to make defenses more honest; it says something when even Rex Ryan dials down his blitzes to drop more defenders in coverage and defend the pass first.

You can counter that by running the ball more, forcing defenses to keep a man or two in the box. Given that we have no personnel to go this route, Randy is pretty tempting despite all his issues.

He could play the role of attracting coverages like Finley pretty well.

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Anyone who wants to get Moss should watch that game and watch him bail on a play he could have made in his sleep, for no other reason than he knew he'd drawn a PI flag. Repeat: He bailed on catching a touchdown ball that damn near fell into his hands because he knew he'd drawn a flag that would result in a first down inside the 20. Then note that his inaction helped lead to Favre getting carted off (with a cut on his chin?!) because if he'd caught the ball that play wouldn't have occurred. He played Brett freaking Favre that way.

Then re-watch the end of the GB-Vikes game and watch him half-assed jump for a very catchable touchdown ball at the end of that game.

Then come back and tell us you still think they should sign him.

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Given how MM likes to call deep passes, there's a little part of me says the packers might be interested.

Given that I think the Packers already go deep too often, I think it would be a bad idea.

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its official Moss is gone

LOL

Even if the Packers don't get him, I wouldn't mind Thompson at least putting a waiver claim in on Moss. With Driver being banged up, and no real help on the horizon, getting Moss would be a big boon for the offense imo. All Moss needs is motivation, and he'd have plenty going into Minnesota in 3 weeks.

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Let Ted and co. decide if Moss is right for us..

If they do get him, Brett's going to be so pissed, head might explode

Not only Rodgers. He would set the whole team back. I can't help but wonder if all of this enthusiasm for Moss is the result of too many people playing Madden. You can talk about how he influences coverages and all that, but at the end of the day, Moss is a human being, like everyone else, and he happens to be a very unreliable one with potential to be a major locker room cancer.

At times like this I am especially glad that boring old Ted Thompson is in charge of this team.

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The majority of Viking fans that have wanted Chilly out have been cheering against the Vikes since Chilly's arrival (the ones I've met/talked to). So they don't count. The fact of the matter is, since Chilly has been here, prior to this year, his teams have progressed, not regressed, in the W-L category. This year is definitely the exception to the rule.

I'm not saying his day-to-day coaching mindset is flawless. But the teams he has assembled, drafted, and put together have been very exceptional. Hell, the man has 2 rookie of the year award winners in his 4 1/2 year tenure as the Vikings coach. One of the ROY was passed on by a more than a few teams because of his past. Now the kid is a bona-fide NFL stud, despite his migraines.

The guy would be a much better coach, IMO, if he would lose his control freak tendencies and call some more PA/counter run plays (read: Make his play-calling a bit more imaginative). This is where he's lost a few fans support, and is starting to lose mine.

To blatantly call him out as a non-NFL head coach during his first stint as a head coach is premature. And from your point of view, that's more wishful thinking than anything else. I'm hoping hes the Vikings version of Bill Beli-cheat, or the Cows' Jimmy Johnson, or the Stillers' Bill Cowher. He just has to figure his learning curve, go through his bumps, take his lumps and learn from them. As far as right now, it's not looking like he is. I hope I'm wrong.

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You know, I think he has one of the better eyes for talent in the league. From my understanding he's been very involved in drafts and other player acquisitions in which case there is no denying he's done very well in building a very talented team.

That said, he is one of the worst game day coaches. His play calling as you mentioned is pretty poor. But in general I think he is just spineless. This is the first year I think he's faced real adversity as the head coach of Minnesota and your team is absolutely falling apart.

In my opinion, he would be better suited for a scouting or general manager role. I don't think he'll ever be a good head coach though.

Edit: I also find it disgusting that anyone would cheer against their own team just because they didn't like a coach or anyone else associated with the team. You should never cheer against your team. I think Bielema is a terrible coach but I'm not going to complain with the Badgers in the hunt for a Big 10 title. I'd much rather have him prove me horribly wrong.

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