lords_of_thelema
14 years ago
Even Holmgren considered screens to be part of the run game.
My problem is mainly with the constant low percentage plays. You don't sustain drives like that.
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porky88
14 years ago

Too many dive plays to Kuhn, especially when we needed more than 3 yards. Too many shots downfield. And the back shoulder fades were way off, like they didn't even practice them.
At least they actually showed up and fought for 60 minutes. And WON.

"nerdmann" wrote:



I agree with the back-to-back fourth down call to Kuhn. I'm okay with one, but they need to mix things up. Minnesota clearly saw the second one coming. Maybe put Kuhn in a power I set or something different. Even a QB sneak. Furthermore, those calls were close enough to warrant a challenge of the spot of the ball. Maybe the play gets overturned and GB doesn't need to worry about handing the ball to Kuhn in that situation. Maybe not. Nonetheless, he did do something things that nearly help cost GB the game.

With that said, his play calling was very good. It has been the last two weeks actually. He's finding the right combination of passing and running. He's starting to find a rhythm as a play calller. I think it's been night and day compared to what we saw in the Washington game. Hes also figuring out how to use Brandon Jackson. Jackson is very patient, which makes him a threat on delays and screens.
lords_of_thelema
14 years ago
He's definitely using jackson better.
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yooperfan
14 years ago
What I don't understand about McCarthy is that he doesn't find a rythm in his playcalling until near midseason.
Even the experts (or so called experts) talk about the need for a "balanced" attack.
Even with his improved playcalling over the last couple of weeks it's apparent that he just doesn't like to run the football yet he continues to say he does.
He is just giving it lipservice.
I'm starting to think he and zombieslayer are one and the same.
longtimefan
14 years ago

What I don't understand about McCarthy is that he doesn't find a rythm in his playcalling until near midseason.
.

"yooperfan" wrote:



If that is true

Maybe he just cant figure out who is best at what?

Or what the TEAM is best at?

Or he just is to stubborn to notice?
Zero2Cool
14 years ago

What I don't understand about McCarthy is that he
doesn't find a rythm in his playcalling until near midseason.

"yooperfan" wrote:



The Patriots use the first quarter of a season to see what works and what doesn't. They try several different packages, plays, etc ... basically setting themselves up to solidify it all in the last quarter of the season going into the playoffs.


I would imagine other coaches do something similar.
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yooperfan
14 years ago

What I don't understand about McCarthy is that he doesn't find a rythm in his playcalling until near midseason.
.

"longtimefan" wrote:



If that is true

Maybe he just cant figure out who is best at what?

Or what the TEAM is best at?

Or he just is to stubborn to notice?

"yooperfan" wrote:



I would buy the who is best at what theory if he was dealing with major changes in the offensive lineup each year but that has not really been the case.
Although losing Grant right away changed this season for him.

The offense was mainly what I was theorizing on.
yooperfan
14 years ago

What I don't understand about McCarthy is that he
doesn't find a rythm in his playcalling until near midseason.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



The Patriots use the first quarter of a season to see what works and what doesn't. They try several different packages, plays, etc ... basically setting themselves up to solidify it all in the last quarter of the season going into the playoffs.


I would imagine other coaches do something similar.

"yooperfan" wrote:



This is true.
It just seems like Mike McCarthy takes longer to figure it out compared to other succesful coaches.
I guess we are fortunate though since alot of other coaches never figure it out.
Zero2Cool
14 years ago
As long as he does figure it out before the seasons over, I'm happy, lol.
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peteralan71
14 years ago

The screens were HUGE.
The fake punt.....man....it was good.....but it SHOULD have been completed. Now that it was used, i doubt we could get away with it again.

"Cheesey" wrote:



Cannot be blamed on the coach. It can be blamed on the nerves of a young, inexperienced TE.
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