musccy
14 years ago
I see your point 'quake, and I agree that if Woody were relegated to simply a cover corner, it'd be a drop off from what Tramon is doing, plus then Woody can't be used in his other capacities...but that's sort of my point too, if we're justifying Tramon based on how it affects how the team uses Woody, then I think that's a point for Woody.

It's all subjective anyway...how do you compare Clifton's value to Tramon's, for example? Aside from Aaron and Clay, I think the next 8-10 are all interchangable.
earthquake
14 years ago
Yeah it is all very subjective indeed! I think earlier in the season, when clifton looked worse and Bulaga was backing him up, he would be a lot lower on the list. However, now that Bulaga is a starter at RT, Clifton going down would mean Bulaga would have to jump over to LT, Lang(or someone else) would jump in at RT, and it would be a pretty huge loss.

I totally agree that Aaron and Clay are #1 and #2 and the team is pretty much screwed without them.
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millertime
14 years ago
for those interested, our current IR:

56 Barnett, Nick
Bell, Josh
42 Burnett, Morgan
88 Finley, Jermichael
25 Grant, Ryan
91 Harrell, Justin
59 Jones, Brad
29 Martin, Derrick
96 Neal, Mike
51 Poppinga, Brady
Pack93z
14 years ago
Bottom of the roster page for future reference.. at least for how the season is going. UserPostedImage


http://www.packers.com/team/players.html 
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zombieslayer
14 years ago
Folks - I love T Williams too, but Woody is better. Woody makes opposing QBs target Williams. Believe me, they don't want to. It's like a choice between a punch in the face or a punch in the chest. Both suck. One sucks less.

Charles Woodson was DPOY last year and I'd have to go through Chrisbozzonerocks' list but if I'm not mistaken, QBs have been avoiding Woody so he hasn't had as many opportunities as last year.
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warhawk
14 years ago
Right now we are holding onto a decent lineup by a thread with all the injuries so ANY injury to ANY starter at this point will really push the envelope.

To get to where we need to be we need Harris, Bigby, chillar, Pickett, Jenkins, and, Tauscher for security back on the field.

With that nothing is going to come easy from here on out. Doesn't mean it can't be done but I know my thought process on this year has changed from expecting a win almost every week to expecting a battle.

Having said this I like our chances of getting 10 wins probably more than anybody else in the North with Cutler throwing 3 to four passes for INT's a game and Favre flopping around out there.
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