Rios39
14 years ago
Before this season started he was called a question mark. And well he has 0 sacks on the season so far to my knowledge and is not creating any pressure. I don't know how hes been playing in coverage or against the run but he's gonna have to get a bit of a pass rush one on one or OLines will just role over to Clays side.
blank
Zero2Cool
14 years ago
His pressure/hit on Favre caused the first interception.
UserPostedImage
Rios39
14 years ago

His pressure/hit on Favre caused the first interception.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Yeah he made a nice spin move on that play. That was the first time i noticed him all year basically lol
blank
all_about_da_packers
14 years ago
He has been a huge disappointment.

Last year, his stats projected out to something like 8 sacks and something like 30 QB pressures had he played the entire year as a starter.

Those are decent numbers, and with more attention being paid to Clay those numbers would not be all that difficult to get.

But he has been thoroughly under-whelming. He missed two games, I believe, but up until last week his play had been lacking. In fact, outside of containing the edge last week, he has not done anything of note this season.

He was a pleasant surprise last year, but this year he really is playing like a 7th round draft pick. If we had any decent option besides him, I'd have to think he would have been challenged pretty seriously for his position.
The NFL: Where Greg Jennings Happens.
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member
14 years ago
I have not focused on him during the games. How many times has he been asked to rush the QB this year? I didn't think it was very often. It is pretty had to get a sack if you are dropping back into pass coverage on half or more of the plays.

He is 6th in overall tackles and 3rd in assists. It seems to me he is doing exactly what the coaches are asking him to do.
UserPostedImage
Rockmolder
14 years ago
He just still doesn't get there on a consistent basis.

And having Clay mainly play against RTs, while Jones takes on the LTs doesn't help, either.

He was undersized, but quite fast, last year. He ran by RTs on some plays and disengaged a little easier, it seemed. LTs are usually of a different caliber.

We just don't have anyone to really compliment Matthews at OLB on the roster right now. Just like everyone predicted and was hammering on.

I'll be picking out my Jerry Hughes for this year.
shield4life
14 years ago
I didn't notice him all year long ... meaning his playing decent but isn't playing spectacular either.
Glad To Be A Packers Fan.
14 years ago

He just still doesn't get there on a consistent basis.

And having Clay mainly play against RTs, while Jones takes on the LTs doesn't help, either.

He was undersized, but quite fast, last year. He ran by RTs on some plays and disengaged a little easier, it seemed. LTs are usually of a different caliber.

We just don't have anyone to really compliment Matthews at OLB on the roster right now. Just like everyone predicted and was hammering on.

I'll be picking out my Jerry Hughes for this year.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



I already have mine picked out. HERZLICH.
UserPostedImage
British
14 years ago

I have not focused on him during the games. How many times has he been asked to rush the QB this year? I didn't think it was very often. It is pretty had to get a sack if you are dropping back into pass coverage on half or more of the plays.

He is 6th in overall tackles and 3rd in assists. It seems to me he is doing exactly what the coaches are asking him to do.

"wpr" wrote:



This is surely an important point.

We need to see the stats on the number of drop backs.

With Matthews a pass rushing phenom you don't want to waste him in coverage.

How many times do we rush 5 guys on a regular basis? Not often it seems. And that 5th guy is often a blitzing corner, safety or ILB.

Jones missed pretty much the entire off season plus two regular season games. CM3 was able to jump in and get rolling. But Jones was a 7th rounder not an elite bluechip 1st round talent.

No doubt he'll get competition this summer. OLB could be a draft day target (although we said that last year).
UserPostedImage
Pack93z
14 years ago
If you look at just the sacks from Jones.. you are going to be disappointed.

But if you look at his overall game.. especially setting the edge and holding it well.. then you start to see the complete picture on this kid.

Go back, look at his college ball.. he was a run support/coverage backer.. with little pass rush experience. He is green as they come in that element.. and he is not Clay.. he doesn't possess that same array of speed and power...

He has some work to do in the pass rush, he has a shoulder injury that I believe is still in a harness.. yet he isn't a liability in the run or coverage.

Hopefully his pass rush improves.. or they figure a rotation of Zombo and Jones to start to apply more pressure from that side and improve in the facet.

But the kid is far from awful.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (14h) : Packers have signed first-round pick Matthew Golden, leaving second-round tackle Anthony Belton as their only unsigned draft pick
beast (20h) : Supposedly he has to take his image, and name off of it... but otherwise could keep selling wine if he wanted to.
Zero2Cool (21h) : he giving up his win business?
beast (19-May) : Speaking of Woodson, sounds like he'll be a minority owner (0.1%) of the Browns
Mucky Tundra (15-May) : Zero, regarding Woodson, that'd why I find the timing with Williams peculiar
dfosterf (15-May) : Ryan Hall y'all does a great job of tracking thesr
Zero2Cool (15-May) : Fear not!! I planned to do 33mi bike ride tomorrow morning, so ... yeah
Zero2Cool (15-May) : We got some dark clouds and nasty winds right bout now.
Zero2Cool (15-May) : Madison they had hail 4pm.
dfosterf (15-May) : Sure looks like these tornadoes are headed towards Green Bay
Zero2Cool (15-May) : Woodson of Charles fame was reluctant and then loved it. that didn't really come out until post career
Mucky Tundra (15-May) : IE "We bought into the Bears and they let us down, we have no choice to seek alternatives"
Mucky Tundra (15-May) : Or that Williams and his family are preparing an exit ramp if they don't like how things are going in a few years
Mucky Tundra (15-May) : Either Williams thought it would make him look good (reluctant but then embraces the city and franchise)
Mucky Tundra (15-May) : I can only assume that the Williams camp agreed to cooperate with that article tells me 2 things
dfosterf (15-May) : Ya. They are in a great mood
Zero2Cool (15-May) : I should visit again
dfosterf (15-May) : ChiCity Sports entering freakout mode due to Caleb and his dad not wanting him to go there
Zero2Cool (15-May) : "He's looking really good out there," Derrick Ansley said of Kalen King. Adds that he's been playing inside and out.
Zero2Cool (15-May) : Him saying he doesn't have one to give haha
Zero2Cool (15-May) : True, that was awesome. The whole F thing was great actually.
dfosterf (15-May) : I did like the Mark Murphy part, sorta
Zero2Cool (15-May) : Some comments on it saying it was great, amazing... I came away thinking... awkward.
dfosterf (15-May) : Packers schedule release video is "interesting" I guess.
Zero2Cool (15-May) : SOOO glad that tool still works. Saves from manually entering each game
Zero2Cool (15-May) : NFL Pick'em import was done last night.
Mucky Tundra (15-May) : Atlanta with 5 primetime games lol
Zero2Cool (15-May) : Week Five BYE?? NFL is hell.
wpr (14-May) : Vikings schedule leaked. Week 12 in GB. Week 18 in MN.
wpr (14-May) : CBS has GB @ NYG Week 11 Nov 16 and they will face MN in week 18 but don't say where. I think away
Zero2Cool (14-May) : W15: Packers at Broncos
Zero2Cool (14-May) : Ben Sirmans on MarShawn Lloyd: “Everything’s full go for him.”
Zero2Cool (14-May) : Luke Butkus says training camp will allow plenty of time to implement new center Elgton Jenkins
Zero2Cool (14-May) : wk 2 commanders at packers
Zero2Cool (14-May) : Ugh. Packers thanksgiving detroit ...boring
Zero2Cool (14-May) : Panthers at Green Bay in week 9, Nov 2nd
buckeyepackfan (14-May) : Week 1
buckeyepackfan (14-May) : Packers Host Detroit Week 1! ML finally gets a week home opener.
beast (13-May) : I was kind of hoping Douglas might come back to the Pack
beast (13-May) : My question is how much do we trust Jenkins? In bad weather, he seemed to struggle a bit with ball control snapping, though he started at OG
beast (13-May) : Well Jenkins probably knows he's not getting that 2026 salary number without a new contact... so just trying to get the new contact early
Zero2Cool (13-May) : CB Rasul Douglas is visiting the #Seahawks today, per source.
dfosterf (13-May) : He's a switch and baiter. Its the same as a bait and switcher except he agreed to the switch first lol
dfosterf (13-May) : 6.8 mil raise next year. Those are existing contract numbers
dfosterf (13-May) : 12.8 plus 4.8 pro rata signing bonus is 17.6 mil. Top center in the league at 18
Zero2Cool (13-May) : Elgton Jenkins wants to rework contract ahead of position change to center
Zero2Cool (13-May) : 🏈Monday, Nov. 10: Eagles at Packers
buckeyepackfan (12-May) : Packers @ Bears week 16(Saturday Game)
Zero2Cool (12-May) : Clifford hasn't been the same since losing 8
dfosterf (12-May) : Sean Clifford would probably disagree
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2025 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM
COMMANDERS
Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM
Browns
Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM
Cowboys
Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM
BENGALS
Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM
Cardinals
Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM
PANTHERS
Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM
EAGLES
Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM
Giants
Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM
Bears
Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM
RAVENS
Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM
Vikings
Recent Topics
13h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

13h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

16h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

21h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

18-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

16-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

15-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

15-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

15-May / Random Babble / Martha Careful

15-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

14-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

13-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / nyrpack

13-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

13-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

13-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.