all_about_da_packers
14 years ago
Cullen Jenkins aggravated an injury during warm-ups, did not play 1 snap despite being in uniform.

Ryan Pickett had an ankle issue going in, and at least from the midway point of the third on he was out of the game.

C.J. Wilson. Jarius Wynn. TJ Lang. These players got important snaps tonight.

Outside of Raji, we desperately need capable bodies. (I have to give props to Raji, dude has played so many snaps thus far into the season, and he was basically out there again almost all game tonight).

Credit Wilson and Wynn for making some solid plays (Wilson hit Favre on his pick-six) and Wynn had the only sack of Favre tonight. But our depth on the D-line is seriously lacking. Ted may very well need to get someone more capable than Michael Montgomery.
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14 years ago
They looked pretty good to me. LOL.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
I was amazed at the number of plays in which we had two down linemen and one shallow linebacker . . . or no down linemen at all.
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14 years ago
Rushing three at the end was killing me. Got it done, though. Thank God.
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all_about_da_packers
14 years ago

They looked pretty good to me. LOL.

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Harvin's TD run in the first quarter, it was because Wilson got pushed easily out of his gap.

Vikings fourth down conversion when they ran it with AP, Wilson again got pushed back.

These guys can hold up for a few snaps I think, but asking them to play a good number of snaps as the starters is asking too much.
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14 years ago
Well Peterson ripped us for 170 tonight, but Brett made sure to fuck all that up.
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They looked pretty good to me. LOL.

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:



Harvin's TD run in the first quarter, it was because Wilson got pushed easily out of his gap.

Vikings fourth down conversion when they ran it with AP, Wilson again got pushed back.

These guys can hold up for a few snaps I think, but asking them to play a good number of snaps as the starters is asking too much.

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Hopefully Jenkins and Pickett get some rest this week and come back ready vs the Jets.
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millertime
14 years ago
Kevin Carter is out there, I believe. He's old as hell, but can still play 3-4 end.

Grady Jackson might be alive too, haha.
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It wasn't till the third quarter that I figured out that both Pickett and Jenkins were not in there. The announcers really dropped the ball on that one. I give Wilson and Wynn a lot of credit. They are not very good, but they played better than expected.
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Rushing three at the end was killing me. Got it done, though. Thank God.

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Usually it was four, and I didn't mind it. Brett Favre kills blitzes, and the Packers were able to get some pressure with the few guys they had rushing, forcing the old guy to run around a lot back there.
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blueleopard
14 years ago
Clay Matthews draws penalties and double teams. His presence makes our team better.

Throw in clutch tackles by Woodson, and beautiful interception by Nick Collins, and you had a defense that was on point tonight.

There were some problems, but this is against Brett Favre.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago

Well Peterson ripped us for 170 tonight, but Brett made sure to fuck all that up.

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Exactly. Peterson hasn't proven that he can consistently carry teams on his back. Let him battle for his yards.
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14 years ago

Well Peterson ripped us for 170 tonight, but Brett made sure to fuck all that up.

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Our guys bent but they didn't break.
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I completely agree with the title of this thread. With that said I think CJ Wilson played a great game tonight. In a Viking's drive in the 4th quarter he was responsible for two consecutive run stops. From what I understand a 3-4 DE is more of a strong, big, physical space eater and gap filler that gives the linebackers and other defenders opportunities to make a play. Wilson mostly shed blocks and went underneath lineman to make plays which is a bit unorthodox but was effective tonight. I still think we need to upgrade our depth at the position. What ever happened to Toribio lol? (To Z2C, NSD or anyone: How do you put a lol correctly in a sentence?)

I didn't watch Wynn specifically tonight but I saw him (94) a lot on the field tonight.
VinceLambeauStarr
14 years ago
I always thought since the final roster announcement that we could have done with one more D-lineman, at the expense of a tight end.

Truth is though, you can never predict what is going to happen.

We lose Finley and temporarily lost Lee - justifies four tight ends.

We have Jolly suspended, Jenkins and Pickett get injured - end result is an offensive lineman plugging the gap.

In hindsight, I don't think you can have a group of personnel that can cover every dot of an injury crisis.

Would be nice to have Reggie White though! :icon_smile:
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all_about_da_packers
14 years ago
Perhaps I should clarify what I meant: CJ Wilson and Jarius Wynn played quite well tonight all things considered. I'm not upset that we have those two on the depth chart, or that injuries have now forced them into bigger roles (this scenario is less than ideal, though).

I am much more upset that our depth, right now, consists of TJ Lang and Mike Montgomery. That is, to put kindly, pathetic. Lang is an O-linemen and Montgomery was so miscast as a 3-4 DE that it is not even funny. In other words, with our pathetic depth, we will be asking Wilson and Wynn to shoulder the load of even more snaps. That is not exactly an ideal situation, but our inability to have adequate (capable) subs to spell them is appalling.

If Jenkins or Pickett can come back next week, it will a much needed boost. If we had one position which we need our starters back at right now, it is DE.

However, Pickett reinjured his ankle, and Jenkins was limping pretty bad according to live reports from a couple of the beat writers. I'm writing this more with the view that these guys will be out, or at least heavily limited for the next game.

So, we could use some help in the form of a capable body (or two) that can come in and spell Wilson and Wynn. Because as it currently stands, after these two DEs, we're have non-existent depth. Ted has to give the coaches something to work with.
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That is not exactly an ideal situation, but our inability to have adequate (capable) subs to spell them is appalling.

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Four of the Packers' top five defensive linemen are injured, and three of of them are very recent injuries. I'm not going to condemn Ted for not having a plan for this.
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14 years ago

That is not exactly an ideal situation, but our inability to have adequate (capable) subs to spell them is appalling.

"Greg C." wrote:



Four of the Packers' top five defensive linemen are injured, and three of of them are very recent injuries. I'm not going to condemn Ted for not having a plan for this.

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I refused to get frustrated with Capers either. The defense was clearly limited in what they could do and what formations they could use.
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14 years ago
And yet when we did sack Favre, it had fantastic results . . .

Yes, I know we couldn't apply pressure every play. I just hated watching our LBs hanging back. I was surprised Favre didn't exploit the shallow to mid routes more.
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14 years ago

I was amazed at the number of plays in which we had two down linemen and one shallow linebacker . . . or no down linemen at all.

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We really didn't have a choice.

Raji took just about every snap. That's not a good thing for a 340 pound man. I imagine he was gassed by the 4th quarter. Putting in either Wynn or Wilson helps little when you're trying to rush the passer. Might just as well clear out that entire D-line and work around with some speed and confusion. Works wonders for the Pats, as well.

That package confused the heck out of Favre, as well.

As to the original post... I agree, but you really can't see this coming.

The amount of injuries coming into this game was pretty bad. We still had a decent rotation of 5 linemen, though. Having a freak injury during warm-ups is something you don't expect. Then having Pickett go out halfway is just brutal. I think we expected to play a lot of 2 linemen packages, anyway, so 5 should've been enough.
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