rodgehodge
14 years ago

Crosby's kick was true until the end. Was there wind?

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



I was thinking the same thing. It looked like it was going right down the middle then it took a hard left. I thought it could have been the wind but the flags on the goal posts weren't moving.
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Chutzpah515
14 years ago
I'd rather have Crosby, rather than any other kicker in the league.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
As I texted Zombieslayer after the game, I've seen better clock management in peewee ball. The multiple lapses at the end of this game were inexcusable. Rodgers does not seem to be playing with confidence, and Mike McCarthy seems to lock up at key moments and become indecisive. He seems more afraid of doing the wrong thing than of losing.

I place the majority of the blame for this loss on the offensive line and the wide receivers, however. Driver alone had 4 drops today. There's only so many times Rodgers can hit his men on the hands before they have to step up and take responsibility for their own ineptitude.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago
Im just sick to my stomach about missing that kick, said Crosby, who came into the game having made 5 of 6 attempts his lone miss being a 37-yarder that was blocked by the Bears Julius Peppers but missed from 48 yards out with 2:14 left in the third quarter as well.
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go.pack.go.
14 years ago
Wow, unbelievable. Another thread bashing McCarthy.

Crosby has arguably the strongest leg in the NFL, how can you NOT let him attempt those field goals? Especially at the end of the game like that. He has a great chance of making that 52 yarder...in fact, he had made one earlier in the game.

And if you're saying he backed off a lot to let him kick it, see the call of going for it on 4th and 1 at the 1 yard line.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
It wasn't the kicking of the field goal that bothered me -- it was the wretched time management that lead up to it. There was easily enough time to run another play and get a few extra yards, but it was pissed away when Rodgers failed to run out of bounds (I'd love to know what his rationale for that was) and McCarthy inexplicably called a time out. Even worse, he waited for several seconds after the offense had gotten to the line of scrimmage before calling the time out. They wasted at least two plays' worth of time that would have made it easier on Crosby in the end.
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go.pack.go.
14 years ago

It wasn't the kicking of the field goal that bothered me -- it was the wretched time management that lead up to it. There was easily enough time to run another play and get a few extra yards, but it was pissed away when Rodgers failed to run out of bounds (I'd love to know what his rationale for that was) and McCarthy inexplicably called a time out. Even worse, he waited for several seconds after the offense had gotten to the line of scrimmage before calling the time out. They wasted at least two plays' worth of time that would have made it easier on Crosby in the end.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



I agree with your assessment on time management.

I'm talking about the reasoning behind this thread, which was not time management. The thread was about how McCarthy relies so much on Crosby that he doesn't go for TDs.
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PackFanWithTwins
14 years ago
Not sure. FG attempt, punt or go for ti on 4th. Tough call. Crosby has a leg. he missed 52 and hit the uprigth almost 1/2 way up. Once in a while I would like them to play 4 downs in the situation. When it is 3rd and 1 or something.
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go.pack.go.
14 years ago

Not sure. FG attempt, punt or go for ti on 4th. Tough call. Crosby has a leg. he missed 52 and hit the uprigth almost 1/2 way up. Once in a while I would like them to play 4 downs in the situation. When it is 3rd and 1 or something.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



I'm confused. Are you talking about them running another play instead of going for the field goal at the end?
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PackFanWithTwins
14 years ago

Not sure. FG attempt, punt or go for ti on 4th. Tough call. Crosby has a leg. he missed 52 and hit the uprigth almost 1/2 way up. Once in a while I would like them to play 4 downs in the situation. When it is 3rd and 1 or something.

"go.pack.go." wrote:



I'm confused. Are you talking about them running another play instead of going for the field goal at the end?

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



Not at the end. Other times though. when on the borderline area.
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go.pack.go.
14 years ago

Not sure. FG attempt, punt or go for ti on 4th. Tough call. Crosby has a leg. he missed 52 and hit the uprigth almost 1/2 way up. Once in a while I would like them to play 4 downs in the situation. When it is 3rd and 1 or something.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



I'm confused. Are you talking about them running another play instead of going for the field goal at the end?

"go.pack.go." wrote:



Not at the end. Other times though. when on the borderline area.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



I didn't really notice any of those situations in this game, but I could be wrong.
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PackFanWithTwins
14 years ago
the first miss was 48 yarder on a 4th and 1. After a 2nd and 2 run failed then a 3rd and 1 pass failed.

Not saying that I would even change this call. Just think that if they are going to be somewhat aggressive with a empty backfield on 3rd and 1, keep the aggresssion going with a 4th and 1. Especially considering today was the 1st QB sneak Rodgers missed since becoming a starter.
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go.pack.go.
14 years ago

the first miss was 48 yarder on a 4th and 1. After a 2nd and 2 run failed then a 3rd and 1 pass failed.

Not saying that I would even change this call. Just think that if they are going to be somewhat aggressive with a empty backfield on 3rd and 1, keep the aggresssion going with a 4th and 1. Especially considering today was the 1st QB sneak Rodgers missed since becoming a starter.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



Yes, but understand that by going for it instead of kicking a 48 yarder could hurt the confidence of Mason Crosby...

And also, in the type of game that this was (defensive), you have got to take all of the points you can get.

Obviously, when we went for it on 4th and goal, it was too early to tell that the game would be so defensive.
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PackFanWithTwins
14 years ago

the first miss was 48 yarder on a 4th and 1. After a 2nd and 2 run failed then a 3rd and 1 pass failed.

Not saying that I would even change this call. Just think that if they are going to be somewhat aggressive with a empty backfield on 3rd and 1, keep the aggresssion going with a 4th and 1. Especially considering today was the 1st QB sneak Rodgers missed since becoming a starter.

"go.pack.go." wrote:



Yes, but understand that by going for it instead of kicking a 48 yarder could hurt the confidence of Mason Crosby...

And also, in the type of game that this was (defensive), you have got to take all of the points you can get.

Obviously, when we went for it on 4th and goal, it was too early to tell that the game would be so defensive.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



I think it can be done without a blow to crosby. Just make it known that they are just being aggressive. say it ahead of time. If we miss this go no huddle and go for it.

Again maybe not in that exact situation. Maybe a tad longer. Just a change up sometimes momentum changer.
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go.pack.go.
14 years ago

the first miss was 48 yarder on a 4th and 1. After a 2nd and 2 run failed then a 3rd and 1 pass failed.

Not saying that I would even change this call. Just think that if they are going to be somewhat aggressive with a empty backfield on 3rd and 1, keep the aggresssion going with a 4th and 1. Especially considering today was the 1st QB sneak Rodgers missed since becoming a starter.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



Yes, but understand that by going for it instead of kicking a 48 yarder could hurt the confidence of Mason Crosby...

And also, in the type of game that this was (defensive), you have got to take all of the points you can get.

Obviously, when we went for it on 4th and goal, it was too early to tell that the game would be so defensive.

"go.pack.go." wrote:



I think it can be done without a blow to crosby. Just make it known that they are just being aggressive. say it ahead of time. If we miss this go no huddle and go for it.

Again maybe not in that exact situation. Maybe a tad longer. Just a change up sometimes momentum changer.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



Yeah I see where you're coming from.
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