porky88
14 years ago
Honestly, Minnesota should beat the Packers. There better. But talent doesn't mean everything. The 2007 Patriots were the most talented team of the last ten years and they didn't win the Super Bowl.

It's all on Brett Favre now. He needs to be even average because Randy Moss can take an average QB and make him look good. However, Favre has been below average this season. If he plays like he has, then Minnesota is still in a pickle.

Minnesota has very few weaknesses and I don't think WR was the most dire concern on this team.

- Coaching is a weakness. Brad Childress wants to run the ball 25-30 times a game and throw 20-25 times a game. That won't fly with Favre or Moss.

- Offensive Line is overrated. It was last year. It looked good because Favre made them look good, but Adrian Peterson struggled and when that happens, you know something is wrong. Fumbles aside, I didn't think there was anything wrong with AP last season.

- The back end of the secondary is also a problem. However, Minnesota is so good at getting pressure, that QBs don't have enough time to exploit it. Nonetheless, the Vikings would struggle against Jermichael Finley for example.

IF you add QB to the list above, then even with Moss, Minnesota is not a better team than last season. I think that's important to factor in.

So that means it's all on Favre IMO. He hasn't had back-to-back quality seasons since 2003-04. He needs to put together a good season this year and Minnesota will be unstoppable IMO. You can't matchup to them.

No doubt this helps, but they still have to play the games.
DGB454
14 years ago
When Rice comes back and they have him and Moss running routes....
That's a tough duo to beat. Your only chance is to keep up with them in points. I don't think we have shown yet that we can do that. I think we are capable but I just haven't seen us play to our potential this season. I hope the next game shows me what I've been waiting for.
Gravedigga
14 years ago
Once Rice comes back, watch out for Harvin in the slot. He will be a better Wes Welker with big play ability. This makes them an instant contender from a mediocre offense to prolific once Rice gets back..
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bigfog
14 years ago
Oh man, I nearly died watching this...

Chilly leaves Favre a Voicemail 
"I wouldn't root for the Minnesota Vikings to win a chess match against Nazi Germany."
Gravedigga
14 years ago
How sick is it gonna be when Favre sweeps the Packers again, this time with Moss who Thompson refused to get?
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Dexter_Sinister
14 years ago
Nice... watch.
I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.
porky88
14 years ago

How sick is it gonna be when Favre sweeps the Packers again, this time with Moss who Thompson refused to get?

"Gravedigga" wrote:



Thompson wanted Moss and probably would have had Moss had he been willing to take him on a one year deal instead of a two year deal.
Gravedigga
14 years ago

How sick is it gonna be when Favre sweeps the Packers again, this time with Moss who Thompson refused to get?

"porky88" wrote:



Thompson wanted Moss and probably would have had Moss had he been willing to take him on a one year deal instead of a two year deal.

"Gravedigga" wrote:



I was just messing around. I don't wanna rehash that old stuff again. Forgive me 🙂
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Pack93z
14 years ago
More on what prompted the trade.

Report: Moss dissed Belichick on plane back from Miami
Posted by Mike Florio on October 7, 2010 9:05 AM ET
We reported on Wednesday that the trade of Randy Moss from New England to Minnesota was fueled by the fact that Moss was becoming a bigger distraction for the team, and specifically for coach Bill Belichick.

Former Patriots receiver Troy Brown has added some substantial meat to that generalized bone, reporting via CSNNE.com that Moss ignored Belichick on the plane back from Miami after Monday night's 41-14 win.

"Apparently, Belichick came to the back of the plane to speak with Randy and Randy just pretty much ignored him and didn't respond to anything he had to say," Brown said.

"I guess there were a few other members of the team -- some front-office people and maybe some players -- that tried to talk to him, just talk to him in general, and he didn't respond to those guys, either," Brown added.

Mike Reiss of ESPNBoston.com also has reported that Moss and quarterbacks coach Bill O'Brien had a heated exchange at halftime of the Monday night game.

It's classic Moss behavior, and he's smart enough to know that, with trade talks percolating, his behavior would be enough to get the deal done.

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"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Gravedigga
14 years ago
Soon, someone will say Moss and Favre had a conversation about how to get a team to trade you. They will blame it on Favre!! I guarantee you!! Just wait!!
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