Zero2Cool
14 years ago

This is the last year of my contract. Nothing has been discussed. There's not been anything said. Not a letter. Nothing, I'm not saying that I want to stay here, but I love playing here. If the future of my job lets me go to another team, then that's what it's going to be. But for right now, I'm still in a contract for the New England Patriots, and I have a job to do.

"I don't want to talk about contracts. I just want to let you all know that I'm here to play my last season out. If an opportunity later on in the season presents itself for me to be a New England Patriot, I will accept that. But if it doesn't, I must move on.

"Randy Moss" wrote:



After this week 1 meltdown, Randy Moss requested to be traded.


Edit, I bet Moss is dealt for a 2nd and only a 2nd. I think he's worth more than that and that'll be why the Patriots ask for and get it. Plus, the Patriots seem to hit on 2nd's better than anyone else in the league.
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Formo
14 years ago
In Kevin Seifert's blog.. He lists the things that Moss did in Minny that caused an uproar. One of the things he added to the list is just him grasping at straws.. which was when Moss mooned the fans in GB. But he conveniently left out how he ran over a meter maid in Minneapolis and had weed in his car. WTF Seifert?!

The atmosphere around him was toxic. On multiple occasions, he walked off the field before the conclusion of competitive games. He pretended to moon the crowd at Lambeau Field in an infamous 2004 playoff game. He mocked the NFL's looming discipline for the incident, telling a group of reporters that he would pay the fine with "straight cash" and that next time he would shake another body part at the crowd.

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porky88
14 years ago
The real question becomes whether Favre truly has anything left in him. Remember, he's going to be 41 and though he was great last season, circumstances are different.

Nevertheless, this will happen. Minnesota is an aggressive team and New England is more conservative. They'll take the deal because that's what they do. Trade veterans for draft picks and develop guys.

The Vikings feel like this is their year. Maybe it is. I picked them to get to the Super Bowl actually, so I don't blame them for going all in.

Still, there are two sides to look at here. Moss wants to cash in one more time. If the Vikings give in, then what does that say about Sidney Rice? He's younger and very talented, but they didn't pay him. What will he do? Will he want as much as Moss? More? If the Vikings don't give into his demands, will he balk and just walk at a later date.

A lot of side stories to look at.

Furthermore, Rice might be done for the season. Perhaps he's not as healing as good as people think.

I admire the fact that they recognize that this is probably it, but you also have to wonder where this team will be in a few years. Maybe where Washington was just one season ago.

By the way, you know Brett Favre is in on this.
Zero2Cool
14 years ago
The Viking's don't care about that, nor should they. If they want a realistic chance at the trophy, you send a 2nd rounder and another for Randy Moss.

I'm one of those who believes where there's smoke there's fire and I'm certain there's talks going on. If the Vikings fail to land Moss, its a huge negative on their management in my humble opinion.
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Formo
14 years ago


Edit, I bet Moss is dealt for a 2nd and only a 2nd. I think he's worth more than that and that'll be why the Patriots ask for and get it. Plus, the Patriots seem to hit on 2nd's better than anyone else in the league.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



I'm hearing it's a 3rd and most likely a 4th. I guess the trade part is basically done, but Moss and the Vikes are working on a deal (Moss probably wants a single year deal, while the Vikes probably would want a multiyear deal). Once the deal is done, I've heard the trade just needs to be made official.
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DakotaT
14 years ago



I still don't believe it, though. It would be surreal, though and hearing about Moss, Favre and AP on the same team? Damn. Almost gave me a woody.

"Formo" wrote:



Almost, hell the earth moved 2 inches. :icon_smile:

You might as well go all in for good. Just makes the final collapse that much more sweet.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

Edit, I bet Moss is dealt for a 2nd and only a 2nd. I think he's worth more than that and that'll be why the Patriots ask for and get it. Plus, the Patriots seem to hit on 2nd's better than anyone else in the league.

"Formo" wrote:



I'm hearing it's a 3rd and most likely a 4th. I guess the trade part is basically done, but Moss and the Vikes are working on a deal (Moss probably wants a single year deal, while the Vikes probably would want a multiyear deal). Once the deal is done, I've heard the trade just needs to be made official.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Would that be ironic Rourke? Not sure if I'm using the word correctly. English class was well lets just say my Junior year I took 9th, 10th and 11th grade English in the same semester.

Anyhow, that'd be ironic if the Vikings want 2 or more years and Randy Moss refuses to sign anything but a one year deal... same thing apparently he did to the Packers.
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porky88
14 years ago


Edit, I bet Moss is dealt for a 2nd and only a 2nd. I think he's worth more than that and that'll be why the Patriots ask for and get it. Plus, the Patriots seem to hit on 2nd's better than anyone else in the league.

"Formo" wrote:



I'm hearing it's a 3rd and most likely a 4th. I guess the trade part is basically done, but Moss and the Vikes are working on a deal (Moss probably wants a single year deal, while the Vikes probably would want a multiyear deal). Once the deal is done, I've heard the trade just needs to be made official.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Hey now, those contracts can be a tough one. I recall the Packers losing out on Moss because of the very same scenario you just provided. GB wanted a two year deal. Moss wanted a one year deal.

My guess is the deal is a second-round draft choice and a conditional pick based on performance.
Formo
14 years ago

The real question becomes whether Favre truly has anything left in him. Remember, he's going to be 41 and though he was great last season, circumstances are different.

"porky88" wrote:



There's a lot of talk going on that this is exactly what Favre needed to get his 'spark' again. I'm sure he'll perk up (if he hasn't already) if this becomes official.

Nevertheless, this will happen. Minnesota is an aggressive team and New England is more conservative. They'll take the deal because that's what they do. Trade veterans for draft picks and develop guys.

The Vikings feel like this is their year. Maybe it is. I picked them to get to the Super Bowl actually, so I don't blame them for going all in.

Still, there are two sides to look at here. Moss wants to cash in one more time. If the Vikings give in, then what does that say about Sidney Rice? He's younger and very talented, but they didn't pay him. What will he do? Will he want as much as Moss? More? If the Vikings don't give into his demands, will he balk and just walk at a later date.

A lot of side stories to look at.

"porky88" wrote:



I don't think Rice will be upset in the least about this. His deal isn't up yet, so he can't say too much.. Besides, he's getting paid now to side on the bench. Can't be mad about not getting an extension when your hurt. I'm 100% confident that if there is a next year (read: A new CBA is signed), that the Vikings will pay El Syd when his contract is up.

I admire the fact that they recognize that this is probably it, but you also have to wonder where this team will be in a few years. Maybe where Washington was just one season ago.

By the way, you know Brett Favre is in on this.

"porky88" wrote:



Yeah, Favre is totally in on this. And this will become a rebuilding team immediately after this season is done for them, most definitely. I doubt they'll turn in to Washington, though.
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Formo
14 years ago


Edit, I bet Moss is dealt for a 2nd and only a 2nd. I think he's worth more than that and that'll be why the Patriots ask for and get it. Plus, the Patriots seem to hit on 2nd's better than anyone else in the league.

"porky88" wrote:



I'm hearing it's a 3rd and most likely a 4th. I guess the trade part is basically done, but Moss and the Vikes are working on a deal (Moss probably wants a single year deal, while the Vikes probably would want a multiyear deal). Once the deal is done, I've heard the trade just needs to be made official.

"Formo" wrote:



Hey now, those contracts can be a tough one. I recall the Packers losing out on Moss because of the very same scenario you just provided. GB wanted a two year deal. Moss wanted a one year deal.

My guess is the deal is a second-round draft choice and a conditional pick based on performance.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Hey, I'm not saying it's a done deal. I'm far from it. Like I said on PP.O, I will only believe this when we see Chilly or Favre pick up Moss at the airport and have 4 helicopters in tow. I'm just reporting what I'm hearing.
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