Ok, I'll start off by saying that I know this has been talked about before, but I'm going to give my take.

I think McCarthy is a decent head coach, but doesn't have what it takes to get us to the promised land. The Packers have talent on their roster and that is what is carrying the team in spite of McCarthy. I can't remember one ballsy coaching decision that changed the outcome or momentum of the game.

However, I can remember numerous times where I shook my head saying,"WTF was he thinking." The end of the Bears game is the perfect example. Not letting the Bears score and allowing the Bears to run time off the clock. I don't think too many here support that call.

He can't win the big game. We lost twice last year to the Vikes. We embarrass the Cardinals in a meaningless game, then give up 50 the following week against the same team in a game that matters. We lose to the Bears in a game we could/should have won and take a commanding lead in the division. Time after time, we come out flat and make games closer than they need to be. The team seems to be missing the killer instinct. Score that TD that will seal the game instead of trying to run out the clock to hold on.

The penalties, my god, the penalties. I'm hoping last week was an exception this year, but after leading the league last year I have to put this on the list. Today's game against the Lions is a good sign that the penalty situation is under control.

Why the hell can't we find players to make plays on special teams? Why the hell can't we find a coach to make players make plays on special teams? I know coaches can only do so much then its up to the players, but lots of other teams have found people to be at least average on special teams. I'm sure the right people, whether it be coaches, or players we need to find these guys.

I'm sure some will come up with specific examples where my theory is off, like beating the Bills handily, or going into Philly and getting a win (both of which gave me hope about this year being different). But after watching the last two games, the same old tendencies are showing thru.

With all the talent on this team, Rodgers, Driver, Jennings, Finley, Matthews, Raji, Woodson the players can carry the team to wins against bad teams. These same players need the coaches to coach the rest of the team to win the big games...games against the Vikings, Bears, Jets, Patriots, Cowboys, Falcons, and Giants.

If this team doesn't make it deep in the playoffs, you will hear me screaming for heads all the way from SE Wisconsin.

Well the play that I think about when you say he doesn't make gutsy calls is the onside kick against the Cardinals in the playoffs.

And yes I do believe he can take us to promise land. I hate how some fans blame everything on McCarthy when it's really not his fault. And I really don't think he's a bad play caller. I love how he has developed Rodgers, and he and Rodgers seem like they're on the same page, which is great to have. I don't want us to lose McCarthy because that would almost be comparable to losing Rodgers himself IMO.

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I don't think you'll be the only one out for blood if the team falls apart down the stretch.

What bothers me the most is that under Mike, the team just plays lip service to the run game. If Green Bay had at least an average running game combined with Rodgers and Co., they'd be damn unstoppable. But no, there's no commitment to the run, no creativity by Mike to try something new on the run game, nothing. And it's not just this year, it's been like that since he's been the coach of the Green 'n Gold.

Pisses me off to no end. Yes, this is a passing league. But you have to have at least an average run game to have some sort of success.

Right now, I have to admit the future is cloudy for McCarthy. And I guess by extension, Thompson.

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The knock on every coach is that he doesn't have what it takes to win a championship--until he actually wins one. Meanwhile, the number of Super Bowl winning coaches who have been hired by other teams and then won another Super Bowl remains at zero. And there have been plenty of them.

As for winning big games, I hear that knock against a lot of coaches too. Unless they win a championship, there is no end to that kind of talk, because people just keep redefining the meaning of "big game." If you do that, you can ignore games like the season-opening wins against the Vikings in '08 and the Bears in '09, or last year's wins against the Cowboys and Ravens. Or the playoff win against Seattle in January '08. There are several others I could mention.

Going into last season, McCarthy's track record was very similar to Sean Payton's, then Payton won a Super Bowl. We don't know if McCarthy can do that, but unless the Packers have a really disappointing season, he's earned the right to coach the team for at least one more year. In the end, the win-loss record will tell the tale, especially the playoff record.

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Yea I agree with Greg that people ignore the big games that we DO win. Then those same people complain about the ones we lose.

It's not right.

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We were 15th in rushing attempts and 14th in rushing yards in 2009.

In 2008 that was 14th and 17th, respectively.

In 2007 28th in attempts, 21st in yards (didn't have a starter locked down until Grant usurped the job halfway through the year).

Oh, and every single one of these offenses was TOP 5 IN POINTS.

Sheesh. Some coaches get no respect.

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Thank you...I was beginning to think I was the only McCarthy supporter here.

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I think we were in a spot to get to the SB in 07, were we not?

And Mike was coach then was he not?


In 08 I think was a off year


Last year we made the playoff, but few freak things and we lost

He can get us there

Agreed.

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Didn't it take Dungy 8-10 years to get to the Super Bowl? Wasn't there about 11 years between Super Bowl appearances for Cowher (only winning the second one)? Let's give the man some more time.

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