Cheesey
15 years ago
Good point Zombie. I mean, if he's gonna get hit anyway, he might as well be gaining yards doing it. Plus, less chance of getting blindsided and injured. Just RUN baby!!!
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zombieslayer
15 years ago
Getting injured scrambling is rare. Getting injured getting sacked, well, that's usually how QBs get injured.

When you see a 250 pound LB coming at you, you slide. Very simple. So that's +5 yards instead of -7. Makes a big difference when you're facing 3rd and 5 instead of 3rd and 17.

I don't understand why MM doesn't tell Aaron to take off more.
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Porforis
15 years ago

Getting injured scrambling is rare. Getting injured getting sacked, well, that's usually how QBs get injured.

When you see a 250 pound LB coming at you, you slide. Very simple. So that's +5 yards instead of -7. Makes a big difference when you're facing 3rd and 5 instead of 3rd and 17.

I don't understand why Mike McCarthy doesn't tell Aaron to take off more.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



Because if the first thing Aaron thinks when he sees overwhelming pressure (3/4 of plays) or nobody is open (the other 1/4 of plays) is "where can I run to", it's going to screw up his mechanics, bad. And there's not always somewhere to run, especially with the entire pocket collapsing like it often has. It's not like he's frequently in a position where he's had 5 seconds, everyone is covered, and there's a gap for him to run in. I've seen very few plays where he could have gotten significant yardage by just running as opposed to stretching the play and waiting for a receiver to get open.
nerdmann
15 years ago

It's pretty rare to see a consistent perfect one-two-three QB. That's a myth of football actually.

Another thing that needs to be factored in is when the pocket collapses, Rodgers has to roll out or find a throwing lane. That in effect forces the receivers to move to scramble mode.

Still, Rodgers held the ball too long against Tampa Bay on several occasions. Not just the sacks too. He took some hits as well because of this.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



You know what Rodgers really should do?

He should simply take off. He's a damn good scrambler. Why not use it instead of taking sacks?

Do this and watch the middle of the field open up a lot more. This opened up the middle of the field for John Elway and Steve Young a lot. I remember watching those guys and opposing DCs were so afraid of their scrambling abilities that they did something about it.

You only have 11 men on defense. You simply cannot cover the entire field. If I were coaching Aaron, I'd get it into his head to scramble more often.

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nerdmann
15 years ago

It's pretty rare to see a consistent perfect one-two-three QB. That's a myth of football actually.

Another thing that needs to be factored in is when the pocket collapses, Rodgers has to roll out or find a throwing lane. That in effect forces the receivers to move to scramble mode.

Still, Rodgers held the ball too long against Tampa Bay on several occasions. Not just the sacks too. He took some hits as well because of this.

"Rockmolder" wrote:



You know what Rodgers really should do?

He should simply take off. He's a damn good scrambler. Why not use it instead of taking sacks?

Do this and watch the middle of the field open up a lot more. This opened up the middle of the field for John Elway and Steve Young a lot. I remember watching those guys and opposing DCs were so afraid of their scrambling abilities that they did something about it.

You only have 11 men on defense. You simply cannot cover the entire field. If I were coaching Aaron, I'd get it into his head to scramble more often.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



I'm amazed by the small amount of roll-outs we're using. They should be at the top of the plays to call with our offensive line. I mean, we have these small, undersized guys, right? Why not use this athletic linemen by moving the pocket around a little? This obviously isn't working.

And yes, maybe just take off a little more, as well.

As for the sack timer, I noticed this as well. At the moment that Rodgers got his knee up, asking for the snap, the timer started. At least a second later the ball was snapped. And then they let it run for a while while the defender was on him.

It was like they just plucked out a play and tried to manipulate it to go with what they said.

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Two sprained feet.
What they need to do is get the ball OUT fast. They can't apparently run screens. Maybe some traps. High percentage. WCO.
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