go.pack.go.
13 years ago

We barely hung on at the end...

But hey, good teams find ways to win.

A win is a win!

"rabidgopher04" wrote:



Yes, a win is a win, but it sure was ugly. At least it wasn't penalties this week.

"go.pack.go." wrote:



Yeah this week it was turnovers.
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nerdmann
13 years ago



10. I don't know why Hawk pissed you off. I thought he was one of our better players out there, which isn't saying much, as the defense was very soft overall.

"GermanGilbert" wrote:




completely agree. however, tramon williams had a decent game, nice back-to-back pass break-ups when the lions took a shot to take the lead.

"Greg C." wrote:





Tramon was Defensive Player of the Game. (Kuhn was Offensive POG.) I mean in my own estimation.
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Chutzpah515
13 years ago



10. I don't know why Hawk pissed you off. I thought he was one of our better players out there, which isn't saying much, as the defense was very soft overall.

"GermanGilbert" wrote:




completely agree. however, tramon williams had a decent game, nice back-to-back pass break-ups when the lions took a shot to take the lead.

"Greg C." wrote:



I agree too on Hawk and I have never much cared him. Your propably just fixating on that stupid facemask call. Tramon Williams' play throughout the game was really impressive as well.
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all_about_da_packers
13 years ago

I think Aaron Rodgers may be getting frustrated that he is having to carry the offense so much. Other than Finley, the Packer receivers are not making as many big plays as expected, and with the running game becoming such a minor part of the offense, the receivers need to do more.

"Greg C." wrote:



I'm wondering if it is more the fact that our Ts are playing like Betty White.

Rodgers seems to be making throws after one or two reads, and considering Taush was less than stellar again today, I can't blame Rodgers for trying to get the ball out after only making 1 or 2 reads.
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Greg C.
13 years ago

1. The playcalling on third and short can get awfully weird.

Exhibit A: On third and one, they handed off to John Kuhn running parallel to the line of scrimmage. No gain. Kuhn is a straight ahead runner--a fullback. Why did they call this play for him?

Exhibit B: On third and one or two, Rodgers ran a bootleg and heaved the ball 20 yards downfield to a receiver who wasn't open. Incomplete. This one may be more on Rodgers than McCarthy. If that's a short pass to Finley, I have no problem with it, but if he's not open you don't throw it downfield to a receiver who's not open. Probably you have to try and run for the first down.

Exhibit C: Rodgers threw downfield to Jennings on third and short and the ball was intercepted. Again, the receiver wasn't even open and he just heaved it down there. I don't get it.

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:




Typically why I do not think it is wise to criticize play-calling is because so much depends on execution - which in the game is beyond the Coach's control in games.

Exhibits 2 and 3 are great examples of this. Particularly exhibit 3, McCarthy said that Finley was the underneath route, and based on the coverage (if it was single coverage) the option was there to throw to Jennings. McCarthy would be nuts to not try and exploit a no-name single covering Jennings, but it was Aaron and Jennings that had to execute. Aaron threw a pretty good pass, but Jennings did not execute. Again, difficult to criticize McCarthy for a bad play-call considering the strategy behind this particular play-call (isolate Jennings in single coverage, or take the Finley route underneath).

"Greg C." wrote:



That's not the way I saw it. Jennings may have been matched up against a no-name DB, but he hadn't been getting open against those guys all day, and the only way that pass is complete is if Rodgers makes a difficult throw over the top of the defender and Jennings makes a fairly difficult catch. The throw by Rodgers was horrible--he underthrew it. But on third and two you should not have to execute a throw and catch with that high a degree of difficulty. Most of the time, the receivers should run short routes.
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nerdmann
13 years ago
Remember when Rodgers talked about taking a few more chances with the ball? Throwing it up on occasion and letting the reciever make a play on it? As far as I'm concerned, he can stop doing that now.
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dyeah_gb
13 years ago

I'm concerned about Mike McCarthy as a head coach.

"TwinkieGorilla" wrote:



What I'm concerned about is my current lack of will to watch this team this year. Never have I felt this way before. When I came home and saw the score my immediate reaction was exasperation followed by relief in the form of "Thank fuck I missed this one." How do i reconcile the fact that at this point I'd rather not even watch the games out of disgust in how horrible our team is playing?

"nerdmann" wrote:



Are your expectations too high? I think it is clear that the lovefest for the pack to go to the super bowl might be a little suspect. But we are 3 and 1 and our decencies can be fixed. Go PACK!
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Greg C.
13 years ago

I think one reason they blitzed less at the end was that the defense was gassed. They were on the field all F'ing day. Rodgers was great last week when they ran the WCO and dominated time of possession. That gets him into a rhythmn. Today they ran the Rosseley offense. It was a flashback to the Mike Sherman era, and it was ugly. We don't have Ahman Green anymore to make it work even as well as it did then, which wasn't all that great anyway.

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:



It becomes difficult to run a crisp offense that dominates TOP when your QB throws 2 INTs (particularly first one, where he simply underthrew the ball and didn't give his receiver a shot at it) and your Kick Return unit fumble twice after the Lions put together a scoring drive.

After the second turnover, I saw Woodson break-up a ball intended for Johnson and then go down on one knee and look totally gassed. You do not see that with Woodson, but having the D out there for something like 35 minutes, it's not a totally strange thing to see.

"nerdmann" wrote:



Matthews looked gassed near the end of the game too. The coaches might want to consider mixing in Poppinga, Brad Jones, or whoever, to keep everyone fresh, especially considering how long the season lasts.
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Greg C.
13 years ago

Remember when Rodgers talked about taking a few more chances with the ball? Throwing it up on occasion and letting the reciever make a play on it? As far as I'm concerned, he can stop doing that now.

"nerdmann" wrote:



You hate to be afraid to do that, though. For now, I would be willing to consider that long interception an anomaly. Usually Jennings is either going to win that battle or it's going to be an incompletion--or you'll get pass interference against the defense.

Coming into the game, I had heard how awful Detroit's DBs were, but I thought they played quite well. Better than ours, actually.
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Chutzpah515
13 years ago

I think Aaron Rodgers may be getting frustrated that he is having to carry the offense so much. Other than Finley, the Packer receivers are not making as many big plays as expected, and with the running game becoming such a minor part of the offense, the receivers need to do more.

"Greg C." wrote:



When has Rodgers carried the offense this season? Rodgers has been disappointing, for the most part, this season. If anything the rest of the offense should be getting frustrated at the inconsistency of HIS play.
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