Pack93z
14 years ago
You can statistically find a game to prove out any claim.

But to your point, cutting down penalties, one way is to slow down the pass rush, that in turn should cut down on holding, false starts (trying to get a quick jump) and more importantly keep your QB healthy.

Point is, our tackles were struggling with the pass rush partially due to the defense being able to full out rush with little to worry about in terms of a run..

The whole point is to keep the offensive play calling advantage by keeping the defense off balance.. but last time I checked.. your offense isn't the only part of a team.. hell it isn't even the most important part if you want to point to the statistics overall and exclusively.
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Dexter_Sinister
14 years ago
The running game was struggling because the Tackles were not picking up their blocks. The Tackles were struggling because we weren't running. Somewhere a snake just ate its own head.

There were 3 offensive holding called on the Packers. Colledge, Sitton and Tauscher. The false starts could more easily be explained by the volume of the Bear crowd. That is what our players attributed it too.

The holding could also be attributed to getting off the ball late from not hearing the snap count.

I am not going to say that is all the problem, but it is a contributor. Saying the running game will fix all of the penalty problems for the Packers is hyperbole.

Many of the penalty yards came from 15 yard roughness and PI calls. The running game wouldn't impact that at all. The 3 dropped or turned over ints that preceded 3 of their 4 scores wouldn't be affected either.

Yes, it would be nice to have a better running game. But that isn't why we lost.
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14 years ago

So you claim to have an idea during other times?

"Tezzy" wrote:



Well, no, actually.

Just better at hiding the fact. 🙂
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Wade
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14 years ago

We confused the Prof
We reversed the normal course
We now feel proud

"zombieslayer" wrote:



Ah, but one can be confused and still be correct. :)


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Pack93z
14 years ago

The running game was struggling because the Tackles were not picking up their blocks. The Tackles were struggling because we weren't running. Somewhere a snake just ate its own head.

There were 3 offensive holding called on the Packers. Colledge, Sitton and Tauscher. The false starts could more easily be explained by the volume of the Bear crowd. That is what our players attributed it too.

The holding could also be attributed to getting off the ball late from not hearing the snap count.

I am not going to say that is all the problem, but it is a contributor. Saying the running game will fix all of the penalty problems for the Packers is hyperbole.

Many of the penalty yards came from 15 yard roughness and PI calls. The running game wouldn't impact that at all. The 3 dropped or turned over ints that preceded 3 of their 4 scores wouldn't be affected either.

Yes, it would be nice to have a better running game. But that isn't why we lost.

"Dexter_Sinister" wrote:



So you can go with establishing the run to help your tackles and line or you can ask the crowd nicely to please quiet down so our line can hear the cadence.

Yep.. I will go with option one, unless you like getting spit upon. ;)

Running 13 times over the course of the game.. and I would guess maybe 12 of them were out of the two back set.. then dropping back 47 times.. I wonder how come the tackles struggled.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago
True or False?

Run blocking the OL does the attacking.
Pass blocking the OL gets attacked.
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Wade
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14 years ago

True or False?

Run blocking the OL does the attacking.
Pass blocking the OL gets attacked.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Run blocking the OL gets called for holding.
Pass blocking the OL gets called for holding, false starts, and not lining up on the line of scrimmage.
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TheKanataThrilla
14 years ago

Did we not run the crap out of the ball before Favre threw away a shot at a NFC championship to the Eagles. 207 yards on the ground by the running game.

"Dexter_Sinister" wrote:



We lost because we didn't have the guts to run it on 4th and 1. Green was an absolute monster that game and I have no doubt he gets us that yard and we close out the clock. Fuck I am gonna be miserable all day thinking about that mess of a decision.
Chutzpah515
14 years ago

Alrite after this loss to the bears I have seen countless posts on here about how either were finished without a running game or jackson sucks or what not just STOP that.If you were real packer fans I would not worrie about that other than losing faith because we haven't ran the ball great.Serously don't blame this on jackson or 1 he hasn't started a game since '07 if I recall and 2 he has been a 3rd down back since Arod started I mean give the guy a break he is not terrible.He plays better catching the ball out of the backfield on 2nd and 3rd downs.He will get better the more reps he takes starting in the system.The thing that concerns me more is the oline several plays I saw monday night the oline ran into jackson when he was trying to run Clifton is horrid at run blocking he gets beat easily I saw this even in the eagles game.Were not finished because are running game is bad STOP WORRYING.

"Finley88Beast" wrote:



This wasn't hard to read at all...

Sorry to offend REAL Packer fans but the run game with B-jack sucks. :pukeright: Although he hasn't started since '07 he has gotten plenty of reps. The OL has not played well either, but even if they had B-jack is still a sub-par RB.

Look for James Starks to easily replace him part way through this season and beyond.
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dfosterf
14 years ago

Alrite after this loss to the bears I have seen countless posts on here about how either were finished without a running game or jackson sucks or what not just STOP that.If you were real packer fans I would not worrie about that other than losing faith because we haven't ran the ball great.Serously don't blame this on jackson or 1 he hasn't started a game since '07 if I recall and 2 he has been a 3rd down back since Arod started I mean give the guy a break he is not terrible.He plays better catching the ball out of the backfield on 2nd and 3rd downs.He will get better the more reps he takes starting in the system.The thing that concerns me more is the oline several plays I saw monday night the oline ran into jackson when he was trying to run Clifton is horrid at run blocking he gets beat easily I saw this even in the eagles game.Were not finished because are running game is bad STOP WORRYING.

"Chutzpah515" wrote:




This wasn't hard to read at all...

Sorry to offend REAL Packer fans but the run game with B-jack sucks. :pukeright: Although he hasn't started since '07 he has gotten plenty of reps. The OL has not played well either, but even if they had B-jack is still a sub-par RB.

Look for James Starks to easily replace him part way through this season and beyond.

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Technically you are correct, Mr. big brother, watch out for the fng, nice guy fella...

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