RashaanSalaami
14 years ago
Posted this over on another forum, but here it is for you guys!

Welcome to Week 1's Results of my review of the game with an emphasis on the defensive secondary. I charted the results of the game, while hopefully doing a slightly better job than PFF. Instead of assigning catches to the nearest defender, I attempted to do a better job of trying to figure out responsibilities and put the blame on the defender that was most responsible for the catch. In some instances, if I really can't figure it out, I'll throw it into the "Hole in a Zone/Screen" category and describe the play. I don't claim 100% accuracy, but hope to do a good enough job where the information here is relevant. Other than that, I hope you enjoy this weekly piece, so long as I have access to a replay of the game. I will try to get it up before the "next" week's game if possible.

Week 1 @ Philadelphia Eagles:

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The QB Rating and Completion Percent may point to Charles Woodson, but Tramon Williams was our best Cover Corner in Week One. He played a spectacular game at LCB for virtually the whole game, which allowed Woodson to move inside and get physical with receivers in the slot, namely Avant. Woodson's numbers probably reflect a better game than he actually had, with Vick missing at least a pass or two under his watch that should have been completions with an accurate QB. Tramon was draped on his receiver in man coverage and quickly found his assignments in zone coverage. He made several highlight plays on the ball and was unfortunate to not come down with at least one.

Though the QB rating is the worst possible against Sam Shields, he actually played an outstanding first game, given his situation. With only 1 year of CB experience under his belt, Shields started his career as a starter for a largely Nickel defense. To be targeted only twice, while going up against Maclin and DeSean Jackson for most of the game is a very good result, even if the two times he was targeted ended up in a TD and a first down (which a tough completion in his zone).

Our safeties played one heck of a game. I didn't see too much of them in the picture and given the explosiveness of the opposing offense, that's a damn good result.

Chillar was our most targeted on the day and also let up the most completions, but that's more the nature of the offense and defense on the field. The Eagles were relegated to attacking us solely with short routes in the middle of the field. Our DBs were taking away too much on the outside, so most of their receivers made catches in the middle of the field. Chillar was almost always a sure tackle soon after the catch.

Brad Jones was victimized on the 27 yard pass to Celek up the seam. He was also the OLB on the screen side, which I officially didn't chalk up to his credit. The play was a 3 man rush while dropping 8 deep into coverage. Seemed like they were playing for a deeper pass, but our DL bit right into the trap, leaving a trio of blockers in front of Jones who was already 10 yards downfield at the time of the pass.

All in all, the Eagles took advantage of deep safeties, finding their long completions in front of them, while eating up the defense on short crossing routes and slants. It's tough to fault the pass D for the near comeback in Week 1. It was Vick's legs and a couple screen passes that did most of the damage on offense.


(Let me know if there's anything you'd like me to add, within reason.)
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all_about_da_packers
14 years ago
This is the best post, to date, on this forum - and I cannot compliment your post higher than that. Outstanding effort and great analysis. Excellent work chrisbozz. +2

I have to disagree with one thing: I do not feel the Eagles tried to work the Sam Shields predicament to their favor all that much: they did not try to isolate him a whole lot (Packers usually had Burnett over top of him) and then on the TD Shields gave up, we saw the risk involved with Shields 1-on-1 because he got beat wicked. While the sample size on Shileds is not large enough, it does show a need to be concerned at our nickel position (should opposing defenses try to exploit it).

This next bit though, I do not feel is fair enough to ask of you but I would be very intrigued to get an analysis of the snap breakdowns, so we could get some idea of what Dom is thinking and how he is trying to manage having two rookies (Shields and Burnett) take some major responsibilities in our D (is he asking Collins to stay in the box more, blitzing and calling more bump-and-run, pass-rushing ILBs more - observations of this nature). However, as I said above it is very unfair to ask you to do this, and beyond providing some more context to your work it would not make a huge difference in the reliability of your stats / analysis (assuming your stats are accurate). I do not really have any suggestion for the direction I think you want to take your work in, but one interesting observation might be to catalog the snaps each player plays (or the players you catalog). Again, this may be asking too much of you, but since you asked for suggestions I wanted to try and give you one idea rather than none at all. I think your work is fantastic in its current format as it is. Maybe you might want to consider having a spreadsheet tallying the stats as the season progresses, in addition to week-to-week stats (if you do not plan to do this already).

I would like to add one more thing: I hope that you (or anyone else) do (does) NOT compare your work to that of PFF. You do not have their resources and experience to churn out metrics for our team like they do. It would be a big disservice to compare your work to theirs; their work is outstanding, but so is yours considering (I assume) you are not an "expert" and you probably have a life outside of doing this type of work.

Once again, excellent work. The fact that you point out we had deep safties makes me wonder to what extent Vick was able to run on us as a result of us trying to take the pass away first.
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yooperfan
14 years ago
Excellent piece of work. Thanks for your time and effort. +2
RashaanSalaami
14 years ago

This is the best post, to date, on this forum - and I cannot compliment your post higher than that. Outstanding effort and great analysis. Excellent work chrisbozz. +2

I have to disagree with one thing: I do not feel the Eagles tried to work the Sam Shields predicament to their favor all that much: they did not try to isolate him a whole lot (Packers usually had Burnett over top of him) and then on the TD Shields gave up, we saw the risk involved with Shields 1-on-1 because he got beat wicked. While the sample size on Shileds is not large enough, it does show a need to be concerned at our nickel position (should opposing defenses try to exploit it).

This next bit though, I do not feel is fair enough to ask of you but I would be very intrigued to get an analysis of the snap breakdowns, so we could get some idea of what Dom is thinking and how he is trying to manage having two rookies (Shields and Burnett) take some major responsibilities in our D (is he asking Collins to stay in the box more, blitzing and calling more bump-and-run, pass-rushing ILBs more - observations of this nature). However, as I said above it is very unfair to ask you to do this, and beyond providing some more context to your work it would not make a huge difference in the reliability of your stats / analysis (assuming your stats are accurate). I do not really have any suggestion for the direction I think you want to take your work in, but one interesting observation might be to catalog the snaps each player plays (or the players you catalog). Again, this may be asking too much of you, but since you asked for suggestions I wanted to try and give you one idea rather than none at all. I think your work is fantastic in its current format as it is. Maybe you might want to consider having a spreadsheet tallying the stats as the season progresses, in addition to week-to-week stats (if you do not plan to do this already).

I would like to add one more thing: I hope that you (or anyone else) do (does) NOT compare your work to that of PFF. You do not have their resources and experience to churn out metrics for our team like they do. It would be a big disservice to compare your work to theirs; their work is outstanding, but so is yours considering (I assume) you are not an "expert" and you probably have a life outside of doing this type of work.

Once again, excellent work. The fact that you point out we had deep safties makes me wonder to what extent Vick was able to run on us as a result of us trying to take the pass away first.

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:



Great suggestions, I'll definitely see what I can do to try and incorporate one of your ideas. You're definitely making me work though! :icon_smile:

I do plan on keeping the yearly numbers in addition to the weekly ones.

Considering PFF plans on getting people to pay for their services, I'll try to bring you a portion of what they offer, but free.

Glad to see you enjoyed it! I'll try to get the Buffalo game done as soon as I can.
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