longtimefan
14 years ago

LTF, you just proved my point. Both those games sold out.

"Formo" wrote:



but a day before a playoff game? and then technically it wasnt a sell out?

Read again

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Despite-sell-out-Vikings-playoff-tickets-are-?urn=nfl-132009 

The Minnesota Vikings avoided an embarrassing television blackout by selling out the Metrodome for tomorrow's playoff game against the Philadelphia Eagles.

However, as of 11:00 p.m. ET on Saturday, there were a number of good tickets still available for the game.


This begs the question: How can the Metrodome be considered sold out if it's clearly not sold out?

Strangely, the NFL's definition of a 'sell out' doesn't jibe with what is widely considered to be a sell out.

The Minneapolis Star-Tribune reports that the Metrodome is considered 'sold out' when 62,000 tickets are purchased. The capacity for Vikings games at the stadium, however, is 64,111.

In addition, the league allots certain tickets to opposing teams and if those tickets aren't used they are returned to the home team for public sale.

Like everything about the home blackout rule and its various deadlines, the 62,000 number seems completely arbitrary. The blackout rule was instrumental in the development of the NFL as a spectator sport and television spectacle, but perhaps its time to abolish this outdated relic.

Formo
14 years ago

LTF, you just proved my point. Both those games sold out.

"longtimefan" wrote:



but a day before a playoff game? and then technically it wasnt a sell out?

Read again

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Despite-sell-out-Vikings-playoff-tickets-are-?urn=nfl-132009 

The Minnesota Vikings avoided an embarrassing television blackout by selling out the Metrodome for tomorrow's playoff game against the Philadelphia Eagles.

However, as of 11:00 p.m. ET on Saturday, there were a number of good tickets still available for the game.


This begs the question: How can the Metrodome be considered sold out if it's clearly not sold out?

Strangely, the NFL's definition of a 'sell out' doesn't jibe with what is widely considered to be a sell out.

The Minneapolis Star-Tribune reports that the Metrodome is considered 'sold out' when 62,000 tickets are purchased. The capacity for Vikings games at the stadium, however, is 64,111.

In addition, the league allots certain tickets to opposing teams and if those tickets aren't used they are returned to the home team for public sale.

Like everything about the home blackout rule and its various deadlines, the 62,000 number seems completely arbitrary. The blackout rule was instrumental in the development of the NFL as a spectator sport and television spectacle, but perhaps its time to abolish this outdated relic.

"Formo" wrote:



According to NFL rules, it was a sell out.

And since I was at the game, recorded video, and looked for the masses of Iggle fans.. I didn't see many, if any, empty seats. In fact, they gave us 'TD towels' and during the intro, the Viking fans were waving them around like crazy.. you couldn't see anything but a weirdly moving mass of white (the color of the towels), throughout the dome.
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longtimefan
14 years ago
Not saying it was a "sell out" but it was what? 12 hours before kickoff THEN it became a sell out

thats my point the fan base so excited it almost didnt sell out
Formo
14 years ago

Not saying it was a "sell out" but it was what? 12 hours before kickoff THEN it became a sell out

thats my point the fan base so excited it almost didnt sell out

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The majority of people in the TC weren't all that excited about the Vikings.. Most never are. Hell, there were alot of Viking fans that weren't excited about that year's team.

There are countless of other teams that have had the same issue as the Vikings yet the media outlets mainly report on the Vikings because it's stirs up Packer fans' shit for some reason, thus giving said media outlets hits. Jacksonville, Arizona, Detroit, Oakland, St. Louis, San Diego and Miami all have had issues with selling out (Arizona also had to get their ticket sales extended twice that year too.. And if I remember correctly that was the year they went to the Super Bowl).

Again, it's not the fan base that's 'poor'.. It's the lack of football culture in the state / Twin Cities.. The Vikings are borderline the most popular team in town.. PROBABLY. Not many other football states/towns can say that. The casual 'fans' (if we can call them that) are the ones that are really to blame for the lack of fast selling tickets. Not Viking fans.

Also would like to add that I would love to see the Vikings 'struggle' to sell playoff tickets like they did that year.. I was able to get my two tickets for $20. Granted they were nosebleeds in a horsecrap stadium, but I was still there burning out my lungs with 60,000 of my friends.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

Again, it's not the fan base that's 'poor'.. It's the lack of football culture in the state / Twin Cities.. The Vikings are borderline the most popular team in town.. PROBABLY. Not many other football states/towns can say that. The casual 'fans' (if we can call them that) are the ones that are really to blame for the lack of fast selling tickets. Not Viking fans.

"Formo" wrote:



The Packers made their own culture with their excellence. 😉
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longtimefan
14 years ago

Again, it's not the fan base that's 'poor'.. It's the lack of football culture in the state / Twin Cities.. The Vikings are borderline the most popular team in town.. PROBABLY. Not many other football states/towns can say that. The casual 'fans' (if we can call them that) are the ones that are really to blame for the lack of fast selling tickets. Not Viking fans.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



The Packers made their own culture with their excellence. ;)

"Formo" wrote:



Ty for making my point clear
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14 years ago
If you build a winner, they will come! heh
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VinceLambeauStarr
14 years ago
Wow, lol.

I have to say, Formo does handle a Packer swarm admirably. It's rare to find people who are for the most part, reasonable when it comes to defending their team's (gay pride) colors.

Formo - how long have you been a Vike? I have seen pics of you at a game with your papa - how long has he been a Viking fan?

I am interested, because I was born into Packerdom, and could never ever see a different way.
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Pack93z
14 years ago
To me, I would rather watch the majority of games from home vs attending a game in person.. sure the atmosphere is unmatched, but as far as the football action itself.. there is no comparison to watching the game on the television.. not to mention a heck of a lot cheaper.

So is it really that strong of an argument that because a stadium, btw which the Metrodome is about the worse overall game experience, doesn't sell out on day one that the fans are less passionate about their team?

Lambeau is a special facility.. parking is a ton easier and there is a strong tradition surrounding it.. not all franchises have the luxuries that Lambeau and Green Bay provide those attending the game.

I think there are many more factors than the passion level of the fan base when looking at attendance.. IMO anyway.
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Formo
14 years ago

Again, it's not the fan base that's 'poor'.. It's the lack of football culture in the state / Twin Cities.. The Vikings are borderline the most popular team in town.. PROBABLY. Not many other football states/towns can say that. The casual 'fans' (if we can call them that) are the ones that are really to blame for the lack of fast selling tickets. Not Viking fans.

"longtimefan" wrote:



The Packers made their own culture with their excellence. ;)

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Ty for making my point clear

"Formo" wrote:



What the Packers have as far as their culture is something of an anomally. You only see it in few places (Texas and football, Minnesota and hockey, etc). I don't think winning was the sole reasoning behind Green Bay's culture. I think that the lack of another pro team to follow until much, much later had as much to do with it (Bucks founded in late 60s? Brewers coming from Seattle in the 60s.. and even the Braves was only founded in the 50s). It's easy to build that culture when your the only team the state has; Much like Minnesota.. Both the Twins and Vikings didn't show up until the 60s, and the Timberwolves came much later (1989). I find it too much of a coincidence that the Golden Gophers last National Championship and Rose Bowl appearances were in the early 60s.. Around the same time frame the state got the Vikings and Twins. And the building of the Metrodome can and will also be attributed to the 'cultural' decline of the Gophers. Fact is.. Having a NFL football culture for the Vikings would have never happened unless the state only pursued that one team. And even if that happened, still would have been hard to compete with the Gophers winning the 1960 National Championship.

Wow, lol.

I have to say, Formo does handle a Packer swarm admirably. It's rare to find people who are for the most part, reasonable when it comes to defending their team's (gay pride) colors.

Formo - how long have you been a Vike? I have seen pics of you at a game with your papa - how long has he been a Viking fan?

I am interested, because I was born into Packerdom, and could never ever see a different way.

"VinceLambeauStarr" wrote:



Well, I've never been a Viking (as far as getting my paycheck signed from the team), but I've been a fan for as long as I can remember, long before ever understanding the game. My dad has been a Viking fan ever since the team was brought to the state.. I suppose he started following them more closely in the later half of the 60s.
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