I don't see what the big deal is. There are plenty of rich liberals banking what they believe in.
It goes both ways.

"Cheesey" wrote:

David Koch and his brother Charles own Koch industries, a largely oil-based conglomerate headquartered in Wichita, Kansas which generated roughly 100 billion dollars in revenue in 2008. Together the brothers are worth 35 billion dollars, only trailing Bill Gates and Warren Buffet in wealth among Americans

"article" wrote:

Agreed, Dakota. I vote, but beyond that have removed myself from much of politics....and am much the happier for it.

Republicans and Democrats = Coke and Pepsi. Same shit, but too much of either will make you sick as hell. I wish a meteor would strike Washington and rid us of the blight that is the "enlightened, elite political class".

"digsthepack" wrote:

1. Lots of people vote Republican a lot based on a "lesser of two evils" theory.
2. Lots of other people vote Republican a lot because they don't think there is another alternative to voting for one of the two major parties ...and therefore, see #1.

3. Re: Tea parties -- a lot of people follow the Tea Party, even though they know its been significantly co-opted by the Republican because they think that it makes the Republicans slightly more likely to be something other than just "non-Democrats." The Republicans' lip service to the ideals of the tea party being slightly more credible because of #1 and #2.

4. Whatever the Republicans are doing vis-a-vis tea-partying, the *ideals* upon which Tea Partying movement is based are worthwhile. And in need of serious advocacy in this country.

My personal belief is that both major parties are beyond saving.

But I wear and display the Gadsden flag (on a pole at home on holidays, on my lapel when I wear a coat and tie, and on my desk at the office all the time). I expect many of my colleagues and neighbors think of me as "another Tea Party nut."

But I don't give a shit. Because the ideals of that flag are too important. If the ideals of the Tea Party are no longer acceptible in this country just because the occasional rich person or nut professes them, then this country isn't on life support anymore.

It's already dead.

Don't tread on me!

"Wade" wrote:

My problem with the Tea Party, Wade, is that there montra is "we want our country back" but they forget to add "like it was in the 1950's." Well the 1950's were pretty horrible for many people in this country. A pretty good era for the white male and their content wives, but not so good for any minority trying for equality.

That flag stands for a lot good things, just so long as we all agree there has been many atrocities in 250 years under that flag as well.

This country is the great experiment of the world. Can every walk of life live under the same flag, same laws, and have the same opportunities and freedoms. I'm not so sure the "Tea Party" philosophy has everyone's interest at heart, and I'm quite certain they have a certain type of person in mind that they care about.

"DakotaT" wrote: