There's been so much talk I thought we could see how it really stacks up in a poll. I still go with Hawk. I think he's more solid even if he doesn't blow some people up like Bishop.

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Hawk definitely the starter, but already in training camp seeing nickel packages where Bishop is replacing Hawk. Put the best players on the field for the right situations. I'm still with Hawk being the starter, for now.

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I haven't seen nearly enough, but I do think that it should be determined in the preseason, and I wouldn't mind it changing throughout the year. Whatever happens, I don't think either player has the range to replace Barnett.

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Gotta go with Hawk for now, until I see evidence leading me the other way.

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I just don't buy the conspiracy theories. Hawk is the better overall player. If Bishop was better than him, he would have seen the field much more last year. If anything this poll should be Hawk or Chillar, not Hawk or Bishop. Bishop is the last guy off the bench for a reason.

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Bishop is taking his case to the media.


"I know what I can do, but I'm not sure they do," he said of the Packers. "I think I'm just caught in a situation where my talents can't flourish here. It's frustrating because I love the guys that we have and everything, but I feel like I can be, and I will be one of the top tier linebackers in the NFL if I get the opportunity."

He said his status as a sixth-round pick has hurt him in trying to beat out a couple of No. 1s in A.J. Hawk and Nick Barnett.

I can understand his frustration. However... Suck it up and use it as motivation young man.

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I don't really believe the bold highlight (what he said).

We have seen quite a few players come in over the past 5 or so who got recognised for their on field play when given the chance, and not their draft number.

Few examples

Ryan Grant (6th Round Pick for NYG)
Josh Sitton (4th round)
Johnny Jolly (6th Round Pick)
Atari Bigby (Undrafted, picked up after unsuccessful stints with Dolphins and Jets)

My opinion? yep, same as yours. SUCK IT THE FUCK UP AND REALLY SHOW US BY DISTANCING YOUR PERFORMANCE FROM THE STARTERS.

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I would rather see Hawk start. In the limited action that I've seen of Bishop he always looks slow in coverage and doesn't seem to know his assignments (a game against the Seahawks comes to mind). It worries me somewhat that Bishop is getting the nod ahead of Hawk in the nickel package - now Chillar is playing OLB occassionally - as I've always thought the biggest knock on Bishop was his speed, or lack of it.

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I like them both, Hawk makes less mistakes but less plays as well.

It's a balance and I don't know where the balance is...

But every time I've seen Bishop play in the regular season he seems to be picked on. I remember him against the Seahawks and they ran right at him and he made tackles but they were too many yards down field too often. He played against the Texans and made a huge number of tackles but most of them were he's guy getting open, getting the ball and Bishop catching up to them and making the tackles.

I don't see offensive picking on Hawk like that who does make some mistakes. But he doesn't make the fumbles ether...

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I agree on the draft choice thing, there's way too much pressure to win to not play the best players regardless of where they come from. If they are equal then I believe the team will play the higher pick or if it's a bad team, that is rebuilding they may play a younger player. If they have any chance at the playoffs they'll play the best player.

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