Dulak
14 years ago

No. I don't get that feeling.

I do get the feeling though that this team we got right now as of 5/13/2010 is good enough to win it all. Give Aaron time, generate pressure on the opposing QB, and DB depth.

Those were our 3 weaknesses from last year. I think they've been addressed. This team is for real. We'll win 12+ games and at least one Playoff game. I can feel that.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



ya me either zombie ie I dont think well grab a high profile guy off FA ... and I agree with you on what we need to win the big game.

Only part of that formula is our pressure and DB depth ... Im hoping harris comes back strong and that we have another guy step up ie underwood/lee or whom the bleep ever.

I think we got our safety position covered ie got way too many safety guys on our roster atm ...

Id love it if our D was even better then last year - would be amazing.
14 years ago

Packers on cusp of greatness? 

This article somewhat pertains to this issue...it quotes LeRoy a lot and becomes a bit of a Ted Thompson bashing article referencing his unwillingness to sign a single FA this year (other than cliffy and Taush).

I agree with Zombie, though, that I don't really get that feeling inspite of what Ted said after the draft (he's working to upgrade OLB). I really can't see him pulling a 'blockbuster' it's never been his style, so why would he change now?

"musccy" wrote:



I don't think the makeup of the two teams are comparable at all. You can't show their records as proof that they are in the same exact situation regarding their roster. The current team is loaded with young talent that will only get better.
Not to mention the FA landscape has changed quite a bit in the past 14 years.
UserPostedImage
14 years ago
Just remember, RaiderPride, most of the time gut feelings just turn out to be gas.
nerdmann
14 years ago
Our biggest weakness was on the Oline last year. Specifically, LT. We've now got three guys who can play there. Besides Clifton.
The second weakness was DB. We got Burnett, Underwood, Lee and Bell will develop and we got Peprah back. Not sure all of Underwood, Lee and Bell will develop, but at least one of them will step up significantly. Plus, Harris should be back.
The third weakness was OLB. We've got Brad Jones with a year under his belt instead of a miscast Kampman. That's a big improvement. I'd still like to see some depth here, though. We've got Obiozor and then maybe move Bishop outside. I don't know why they don't do that.
We've also got a FAST HB who can catch the ball and a rookie version of Finley. Our offense is gonna be CRAZY good in two years. Probably this year too.
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Dulak
14 years ago

Our biggest weakness was on the Oline last year. Specifically, LT. We've now got three guys who can play there. Besides Clifton.
The second weakness was DB. We got Burnett, Underwood, Lee and Bell will develop and we got Peprah back. Not sure all of Underwood, Lee and Bell will develop, but at least one of them will step up significantly. Plus, Harris should be back.
The third weakness was OLB. We've got Brad Jones with a year under his belt instead of a miscast Kampman. That's a big improvement. I'd still like to see some depth here, though. We've got Obiozor and then maybe move Bishop outside. I don't know why they don't do that.
We've also got a FAST HB who can catch the ball and a rookie version of Finley. Our offense is gonna be CRAZY good in two years. Probably this year too.

"nerdmann" wrote:



nice post nerdmann

we appear to have quite a different team this year then what we started with last year IMO.

Last year we were just starting the 34 and wondering how we would do and raved about our secondary.

Although our O seems pretty much the same; we saw the emergence of finley and our blantant oline weakness and rodgers holding the ball too long came into focus quite early.

They say a 34 D only gets better and the first 1-3 years is the learning years ... Im glad we got veterans for the 34 on our team now (well at least 1 year under their belt).

Heck we saw barnett do quite well even after the ACL repair.

perhaps our RB position got upgraded and even our ST ... our ST has been abysmal for the past 2 years. Id love to see us get a great return guy and have better ST covereage.

btw I can see us taking the NFC north this year given our team and the fact the viks have a harder schedule. And Id almost predict the lions to beat out the bears this year ... love their changes
Wade
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14 years ago

Our biggest weakness was on the Oline last year. Specifically, LT. We've now got three guys who can play there. Besides Clifton.

"nerdmann" wrote:



I presume two of the three are Bulaga and Newhouse. (Though, officially, both are still in the "potential" category.) But who is the third guy?
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musccy
14 years ago



I don't think the makeup of the two teams are comparable at all. You can't show their records as proof that they are in the same exact situation regarding their roster. The current team is loaded with young talent that will only get better.
Not to mention the FA landscape has changed quite a bit in the past 14 years.

"MassPackersFan" wrote:



I agree with you to a point...one thing LeRoy and the link overlook is the depth, thus potential for current roster players to step up like Finley did last year...James Jones, Jordy , Raji, Blackman, Q Johnson, Blackmon, etc. are all examples of guys who could step up beyond what they have in the past.

With that said, even with key leaders like Butler and Reggie, look at the impact that more vets had even at positions already loaded with vet leadership...look at the recent talk of how the loss of vets tore apart the Pats this fall. There's a happy medium that is often only realized in hindsight...but I will say I'm slightly discouraged that we literally haven't signed even 1 FA
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