Pack93z
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14 years ago
This weekend WI lost a police officer to a drunk driver.. which locally has hit the debate on how to solve one of this nations largest societal issues.

So I poise a question.. what actions can this country utilize to effectively solve the problem.

7/1/2010 the Wisconsin Laws will stiffen more.. but is that the true answer? I would point to it being proved relatively ineffective.

Your thoughts?
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
TheEngineer
14 years ago
People won't do things they know with certainty that they will be caught.

Introduce mandatory breathalyser car ignition devices to to all vehicles by way of legislation. Fund such a scheme using the millions, nay billions? of dollars of costs to infrastructure, health, legal fees, etc. which are currently tied up to various traffic infringements and injuries.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
My scheme is much cheaper. Mandatory castration on the first offense. Prevent the fuckers from passing on their genes. 😉
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TheEngineer
14 years ago
Gee non, that's a bit sexist isn't it 😛
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Pack93z
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14 years ago
Multiple Offender in Wisconsin already have to install such a device... and we still have people with multiple offenses continue..

http://www.iihs.org/laws/dui.aspx 
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
Well, over time, it will gradually reduce the number of women with drunk-driving genes too. ;)

Besides, the word castration covers removal of ovaries too.
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Pack93z
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14 years ago
An illustration of such a person..


Crash nets Marathon man 6th OWI 

A village of Marathon man was charged today in Marathon County Circuit Court with his sixth drunken driving offense.

Apolonio Bailon-Roman, 26, was arrested Friday following a one-vehicle rollover crash at about 12:40 p.m. on North Mountain Road in the town of Rib Mountain.

Bailon-Roman admitted to a State Patrol trooper that he had been drinking the previous night at a bar in the village of Marathon and at a family members home in Wausau, according to a criminal complaint. Bailon-Roman said he was driving back to Marathon when he looked down to change the radio station and lost control of his vehicle, which then overturned, according to the complaint.

Bailon-Roman and a 38-year-old passenger suffered minor injuries in the crash, police said.

Bailon-Roman does not have a drivers license, according to the complaint. He was previously convicted of driving while intoxicated in Marathon County in 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007 and 2009, according to court records.

Bailon-Roman is being held in the Marathon County Jail on a probation hold. A preliminary hearing is scheduled for May 10.



And the death in question..


http://www.wausaudailyherald.com/article/20100426/WDH0101/100426010/Update-Name-of-Vilas-County-deputy-killed-in-crash-released 

LAC DU FLAMBEAU A 49-year-old Lac du Flambeau man was scheduled to be charged in Vilas County Circuit Court in connection with a two-vehicle crash Sunday night that killed a Vilas County Sheriffs deputy.

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James A. Peontke, 49, was arrested on a drunken driving charge following a crash at about 9 p.m. Sunday on Highway 47 in the town of Lac du Flambeau, according to the Wisconsin State Patrol.

Sheriffs deputy Kory Dahlvig, 29, was responding to a call when a pick up truck with a manure box pulled from the side of the road into the path of the deputys squad car, according to a State Patrol news release. The squad car struck the rear of the truck.

Peontke, the driver of the truck, was taken to a local hospital with minor injuries, police said. Dahlvig was killed in the crash.

Peontke had a preliminary breath test of 0.19, more than twice the legal limit of 0.08 for driving, State Patrol Lt. Tim Carnahan said this morning.


"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
TheEngineer
14 years ago

An illustration of such a person..

"pack93z" wrote:



It is exceedingly difficult to prevent such people from driving, short of a locking system which checks against driving records, which can still be overcome.

You'll stop the majority of drunk drivers; those first time offenders, young punk kids who don't know any better or rationally impaired, but otherwise decent drivers who have made a misjudgement on their driving ability.

Once you introduce something that will cull a majority of drunk drivers, then you go and target those outlier individuals with mandatory jail time or what have you.
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Pack93z
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14 years ago
It is an interesting concept.. mandatory devices on all vehicles.. I wonder how fool proof a wide scope device as described would be.

And the maintenance of such a device.. failure rate of the product disabling a vehicle by malfunction?
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Formo
14 years ago
I don't know about that. It would involve too much legislation to install such devices on every car/key/ignition.

I'm not quite sold that there ever will be a solution for crap like this. I mean, they could ban alcohol altogether.. but we all know how well that went back in the day.
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