Pack given C grade for past 3 drafts· Page 2

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

14 years ago

Bucky Brooks was a WR, I think for the Bills, He played the same time as Robert Brooks and Billy Brooks, I remeber this because I had all 3 on my fantasy football team one year(I think I finished last).

Point being, he played in the NFL, so he knows a little of what it takes to get there and stay for a few years, but yea, have to agree, he is not an expert.

Really who is, drafting is such a crapshoot, and is more than the first 3 rounds, I agree with the fact that JJ and Jordy are in fact solid draft picks.

I pray for the day next year when GJ,DD,JJ, Jordy and Jermicheal are all on the field at the same time....Unstoppable in the right situation.

Vikings were given an A, Packers IMHO deserve a B, let's see how the teams grade out in 2 years, hell even Harrel looks like he might be able to show up this year and finally we will get a chance to judge that pick.

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yooperfan
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#12

I would also like to see hoe the Pack would grade out 2005- 2007.
That would be a more true 3 year grade than throwing in the 2009 draft.

How about 93Z, porky88 and Rockmolder grade out those 3 drafts, I bet they would be more accurate than Bucky.

PackerTraxx
Senior Member

14 years ago

#13

writers=blah, blah, blah, blah...

Why is Jerry Kramer not in the Hall of Fame?

Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

14 years ago

#14

While I understand that it is outside the time scope of this article, the pick of Aaron Rodgers has to be acknowledged too. At the rate things are going, it could grade out to be one of the genius picks of all time. The only one I can think of that's comparable in recent memory is the pick of Tom Brady.

yooperfan
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#15

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:

The only reason it will never be comparable is that Brady was a 6th round pick making him a higher draft value.
That's not to say Rogers won't be, in the longrun, a better QB historically.

Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

14 years ago

#16

I totally concede your point, of course, but Brady was never graded out to be a first-round pick (and his performance in the NFL makes it apparent why: sure, he's won several rings, but he's only had one exceptional year statistically), whereas Rodgers was at one time graded out to be potentially the first pick overall, and his personal performance in the league has been commensurate. I think all the teams that passed on Rodgers look far more foolish than the teams that passed on the relatively unknown Brady, who was fortunate enough to enjoy a marvelous confluence of events in New England.

Pack93z
Select Member

14 years ago

#17

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:

Personally I would put a pick like Driver over a Rodgers pick of overall value at slot picked.

Rodgers was a possible #1 overall pick.. by probably a virtue of a coin flip the 49ers picked Smith over Rodgers. Fast forward to the Packers 05 draft, it was clear they needed the next generation of QB to develop.. so the pick made perfect sense.. other than the frail ego of the starter at the time.

Driver, albeit on a ton of his own hard work and development, has turned into a for sure Packer hall of famer and a yearly All Pro worthy candidate. All for the price of a normally throw away pick of a 7th for most clubs.

Others of note in Packer lore of the past two decades.. guys that were highly productive later round picks.. where in my opinion the ability to judge talent truly sticks out greater.

Adam Timmerman
KGB
Aaron Kampman
Mark Tauscher
Matt Hasselbeck
Marco Rivera
Doug Evans
Dorsey Levens
Mark Chmura
Bryce Paup

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

zombieslayer
Registered

14 years ago

#18

lets take a look at 2009 for GB.

1 B.J. Raji Boston College decent, potential to be great
1 Clay Matthews Southern Cal great
4 T.J. Lang Eastern Michigan very good
5 Quinn Johnson LSU ok, potential to be very good
5 Jamon Meredith South Carolina ok, would like him to still be on the team
6 Jarius Wynn Georgia ok, a role player is a decent job for a 6th round rookie
6 Brandon Underwood Cincinnati average, hopefully some potential here
7 Brad Jones Colorado great production for a 7th round pick

Holy crap that is a good draft, consider how many picks were traded away to get Mathews and its even more impressive, really is there a guy on that list you can say was a "bad" pick? The one guy who didn't make the team(lord knows why not) ended up starting some games for who was it, the bills?

"earthquake" wrote:

I was closer to the anti-TT camp until '09. In '09, he did everything right and earned an A on that draft. Agreed on all counts for what you said up there. CM3 will be a perennial Pro Bowler. Raji will get at least one Pro Bowl in his career. Two big scores, plus a bunch of good ones.

Back to the article, Jones and Jordy were NOT disappointments. When Driver eventually retires, Jones will take his place and get 1000+ yard seasons. Jordy will be a dang good #3 WR behind Gregorious and Jones.

My man Donald Driver

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earthquake
Member

14 years ago

#19

Nelson and Jones have been far far from disapointments, very solid players. Not terribly flashy, but they havent gotten a huge amount of oportunities. If anyone thinks these guys are bad, all they need to do is look back at a few guys like Robert Ferguson, Antonio Chatman and Taco Wallace.

Nelson/Jones would be solid #2 WRs on a lot of teams in the league.

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dhazer
Veteran Member

14 years ago

#20

Wtf why is everyone so up on Jones I remember him dropping alot of balls and Nelson was not worth a very high 2nd round pick. I think the grade is about right. The Vikes are a little inflated but yes Harvin was a steal and blows both Jones and Nelson out of the water. But i also remember the years that the Vikes would be lucky to get their pick in on time lol. I also thinks AP trumps any of our top picks in the past 10 years. Yaya lets hear about Rodgers but AP gave production right away and earned his money and wasn't on the bench.

Rice didn't come into his own until this year before that I seen people calling him a bust.

I say if we do this again next year the A will goto the Lions I really like what they are doing.

The Bears ahhh hell we all know the Bears will still suck

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