Wade
  • Wade
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14 years ago
Nice to know HC and assistants may not be on same page with respect to one of the three OL people are most optimistic about.

:(
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14 years ago
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TheEngineer
14 years ago

Nice to know HC and assistants may not be on same page with respect to one of the three OL people are most optimistic about.

:(

"Wade" wrote:



Exactly what I was thinking Wade. They still seem to be indecisive in regards to how to fix our OL.
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RaiderPride
14 years ago

Nice to know HC and assistants may not be on same page with respect to one of the three OL people are most optimistic about.

:(

"TheEngineer" wrote:



Exactly what I was thinking Wade. They still seem to be indecisive in regards to how to fix our OL.

"Wade" wrote:



I love it.

There better well be more than one person who has a voice, and can voice that opinion during the off season. That tells me there is no dictatorship in the coaching staff of my Green Bay Packers.

By the time Camp is closing.. They will all be united on the task, and will have known that their voice was heard. That is called positive management.
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Wade
  • Wade
  • Veteran Member
14 years ago

Nice to know HC and assistants may not be on same page with respect to one of the three OL people are most optimistic about.

:(

"RaiderPride" wrote:



Exactly what I was thinking Wade. They still seem to be indecisive in regards to how to fix our OL.

"TheEngineer" wrote:



I love it.

There better well be more than one person who has a voice, and can voice that opinion during the off season. That tells me there is no dictatorship in the coaching staff of my Green Bay Packers.

By the time Camp is closing.. They will all be united on the task, and will have known that their voice was heard. That is called positive management.

"Wade" wrote:



I must respectfully disagree.

This is not year one of the McCarthy era. This is coming up on year five. This is not year two of the Thompson era. This is coming up on year six.

This is not a disagreement about the backup of an offensive line without substantial questions.

This is a disagreement about the best place to put the person who is arguably, right now, the third best offensive lineman on the roster. And even if one believes not just Sitton and Wells are better but that Clifton and Tauscher are as well, the way people are talking about Lang and his "technique and attitude and potential", five years into McCarthy's tenure, he and his coaches should not be having this kind of disagreement.

What is good management in year one or year two is evidence of managerial failure in year five.
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Stevetarded
14 years ago

Nice to know HC and assistants may not be on same page with respect to one of the three OL people are most optimistic about.

:(

"Wade" wrote:



Exactly what I was thinking Wade. They still seem to be indecisive in regards to how to fix our OL.

"RaiderPride" wrote:



I love it.

There better well be more than one person who has a voice, and can voice that opinion during the off season. That tells me there is no dictatorship in the coaching staff of my Green Bay Packers.

By the time Camp is closing.. They will all be united on the task, and will have known that their voice was heard. That is called positive management.

"TheEngineer" wrote:



I must respectfully disagree.

This is not year one of the McCarthy era. This is coming up on year five. This is not year two of the Thompson era. This is coming up on year six.

This is not a disagreement about the backup of an offensive line without substantial questions.

This is a disagreement about the best place to put the person who is arguably, right now, the third best offensive lineman on the roster. And even if one believes not just Sitton and Wells are better but that Clifton and Tauscher are as well, the way people are talking about Lang and his "technique and attitude and potential", five years into McCarthy's tenure, he and his coaches should not be having this kind of disagreement.

What is good management in year one or year two is evidence of managerial failure in year five.

"Wade" wrote:



I don't think the issue is "where is he best at", I think it's "where is he best at for the team?" I think they believe Lang has the most potential at the G position but could still be a good RT. The problem is we have 2 LGs and 1 old RT with no real back up. So you either put him at his best position (LG) and have no back up for either tackle or you keep him at RT where he will be ready to back up and eventually overtake Tauscher while also serving as emergency LT.

I think the draft will sort out a lot of this but I don't really see it as a big issue at the moment.
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Wade
  • Wade
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14 years ago
But my point is that we ought not to have to ask "what's the best for the team" in this particular way this far into McCarthy's tenure and Thompson's tenure. Four+ years in we should not be in the position where you have "2 LGS and 1 old RT with no real back up".

That we are says something, and IMO not something positive, about the quality of MM's and TT's decisionmaking over those 4 or 5 years.

Given that we are in this position, sure, it makes sense to be going back and forth within the staff.

But we shouldn't be in this position.
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doddpower
14 years ago

But my point is that we ought not to have to ask "what's the best for the team" in this particular way this far into McCarthy's tenure and Thompson's tenure. Four+ years in we should not be in the position where you have "2 LGS and 1 old RT with no real back up".

That we are says something, and IMO not something positive, about the quality of Mike McCarthy's and Ted Thompson's decisionmaking over those 4 or 5 years.

Given that we are in this position, sure, it makes sense to be going back and forth within the staff.

But we shouldn't be in this position.

"Wade" wrote:




I don't think it's nearly as big of a deal as you do. It's EARLY offseason and there's going to be debate and differing opinions about players especially young ones. Every team has some position they need to address, ours just happens to be the Oline. Is there a team that is just perfect top to bottom? Perhaps occasionally, but there is only one champion each year. That doesn't mean that the other 31 teams are no good.

I agree that the situation could be better, no doubt. But none of us have ANY clue what's going to happen between here and week 1. A stud player could fall to us somewhere along with other picks / free agents / trades and the situation could be largely resolved.

There will ALWAYS be some position that could be much better. Ours just happens to be offensive line and perhaps secondary, both of which should be much better this year. It's not about how things look right now it's how things look during the season and I'm not as concerned about the Oline as many are. We just need a solid draft.
Stevetarded
14 years ago

But my point is that we ought not to have to ask "what's the best for the team" in this particular way this far into McCarthy's tenure and Thompson's tenure. Four+ years in we should not be in the position where you have "2 LGS and 1 old RT with no real back up".

That we are says something, and IMO not something positive, about the quality of Mike McCarthy's and Ted Thompson's decisionmaking over those 4 or 5 years.

Given that we are in this position, sure, it makes sense to be going back and forth within the staff.

But we shouldn't be in this position.

"Wade" wrote:



We aren't in that position, with Lang we either have a very young starter at LG and no back up RT or we have a back up and future starter at RT while there is a competition at LG between 2 starters. Not both.
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zombieslayer
14 years ago
Let's not forget that in the last 7 games, Aaron got sacked 10 times. So most of the sacks were from the Cows game and earlier.

The OL stats are deceptive. The big IF is which OL will we see? Will we see the OL in the last 7 regular season games, or the first 9?

My concerns are with depth. I don't think both of our OTs will last 19 games this year.

As fans, all we can do is hope Ted Thompson & company will address our 2 major issues. Dodd says it's OL and the secondary. I respectfully disagree. I think it's OL and pass rush. Our secondary took a hit when Harris went down. Williams is on the way up. Woody proved he hasn't lost a step. Collins is a Pro Bowler. Bigby is not as bad as people make him out to be.

Depth in the secondary will be addressed. You can bet on it.

I'd like to see someone who can generate more pressure besides CM3. This is a combination of personnel and us sometimes lacking the aggression it takes to take the opposing QB down.

And to the reporters, is it possible to give an injury without mentioning Tebow? We're not going to get him so why waste a question on him.
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