bozz_2006
14 years ago
Bigby's not bad per se, but when he gets a little banged up, his ability to continue playing at a high level declines in a big way. And he's banged up a lot. Same problem as Bob Sanders.
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doddpower
14 years ago

Let's not forget that in the last 7 games, Aaron got sacked 10 times. So most of the sacks were from the Cows game and earlier.

The OL stats are deceptive. The big IF is which OL will we see? Will we see the OL in the last 7 regular season games, or the first 9?

My concerns are with depth. I don't think both of our OTs will last 19 games this year.

As fans, all we can do is hope Ted Thompson & company will address our 2 major issues. Dodd says it's OL and the secondary. I respectfully disagree. I think it's OL and pass rush. Our secondary took a hit when Harris went down. Williams is on the way up. Woody proved he hasn't lost a step. Collins is a Pro Bowler. Bigby is not as bad as people make him out to be.

Depth in the secondary will be addressed. You can bet on it.

I'd like to see someone who can generate more pressure besides CM3. This is a combination of personnel and us sometimes lacking the aggression it takes to take the opposing QB down.

And to the reporters, is it possible to give an injury without mentioning Tebow? We're not going to get him so why waste a question on him.

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Zombie,

I actually agree. I think pass rush is a big need as well yet I failed to mention it. However, I think our pass rush would have to be incredible to compensate for Bush being on the field most of the game. But you're right, they definitely work off of each other, but even a good secondary will get burned with no pass rush.

I hope in this draft, especially early, we take the best player available, someone that has a high probability of being a successful player for years. If that's Oline, secondary, or pass rush, I would be satisfied.
Dulak
14 years ago

Let's not forget that in the last 7 games, Aaron got sacked 10 times. So most of the sacks were from the Cows game and earlier.

The OL stats are deceptive. The big IF is which OL will we see? Will we see the OL in the last 7 regular season games, or the first 9?

My concerns are with depth. I don't think both of our OTs will last 19 games this year.

As fans, all we can do is hope Ted Thompson & company will address our 2 major issues. Dodd says it's OL and the secondary. I respectfully disagree. I think it's OL and pass rush. Our secondary took a hit when Harris went down. Williams is on the way up. Woody proved he hasn't lost a step. Collins is a Pro Bowler. Bigby is not as bad as people make him out to be.

Depth in the secondary will be addressed. You can bet on it.

I'd like to see someone who can generate more pressure besides CM3. This is a combination of personnel and us sometimes lacking the aggression it takes to take the opposing QB down.

And to the reporters, is it possible to give an injury without mentioning Tebow? We're not going to get him so why waste a question on him.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



Nice stuff there ZS ...

I agree with the Tbow part unless for some reason hes sitting there at the 23rd spot but Id hate for us to blow a 1st rounder on a guy that will be a backup.

And we thought we had a bad OL in 08 ie Mike McCarthy talked about solidifying it up for the 09 season with the same 5 guys and not playing "musical chairs"

I definately agree about the pass rushing - we need a solid LOLB and better blitz play calling IMO ...

I also agree with you that bigby isnt that bad - pretty decent IMO ... but wouldnt mind it if we grabbed mays in the 2nd ... slightly concerned about the corner position if harris cant play.

But still feel that LOLB and our rushing should be a priority over the corner ... but like us to shore both up.
zombieslayer
14 years ago
Yeah, LOLB I'd rather have over a CB, but we'll be drafting both. In the NFL, you simply have to be able to cover 3 WRs. Look at the elite teams, the ones we'll be facing in the Playoffs this year. How many of them throw to their 3rd WR? I'd guess over 50% of them, and that's probably being conservative.

I don't hate Bush. He was a guy who was pushed into a position because of injuries. Not his fault. It would be like if you got hired by a company then the owner, the manager, and the assistant manager all die in a car wreck and suddenly, you're suddenly running the show. Not a position you want to be in.

And yeah, draft BPA, but limit BPA in the 1st round to OT, a LB who can blitz, CB, or S.
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Pack93z
14 years ago
Color my vote in the early parts of the draft (First 2 rounds) to Safety.... a high IQ one, to pair with Collins.

Someone that can make the damn adjustments in the backfield.. maybe not this season right away but in the not to distant future. I think I will puke if I see a cluster f*&$ in the defensive backfield pre-snap and moments there after.

Damn near punch the TV every time I watch the Cards game over...

Depth at OLB, DLine and OLine are all prime candidates for an upgrade as well.

Sleeper players to make noise this season.. Jarius Wynn, Cyril Obiozor, and I can't call him a sleeper anymore is Brad Jones, I see him stepping up his game this season.

Throw in Harrell to the mix and the Dline may be pretty deep already.. and backer might not be the need everyone is clamoring for.. hence why I harp on the Safety.. we got squat for depth.
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