RedSoxExcel
16 years ago

Repeat after me people:
"It is a team effort when they win. It is a team effort when they lose."

"wpr" wrote:



Man I don't understand how to make this any clearer. I could use about 15 quotes from this thread. This is not an attack on you wpr. I don't understand what everyone is talking about.

I said there are many reasons we lost. Coaching, punting, run defence, o-line, etc. The whole point was that it is INSANE if you think the QB is not PART of the blame when he throws a boneheaded INT down 3 points with 5 mins left in the 4th quarter. I never once said the loss is his solely his fault. The point is no one should get a free pass. Stop throwing out 300+ yards and 3 TD's - when 1 TD and a bunch of yards are a team in prevent defence.

My whole point/bottom line: The defence was on the bench (I still have to check on this). The o-line gave him time on that play. Down THREE points, in the FOURTH quarter. He threw a BRUTAL INT, just as bad as Favre's one in OT against the Giants. He is part of hte reason we lost. And I can't even count on my fingers the nubmer of people think he is not part of the blame. Its insane to me. Thats all I'm saying. Thats it. Go back and show me where I said that this fault is solely his fault. Please. People love blaming everyone but Rodgers because he's the Golden Boy. Be objective people. I bet you anything if you asked Rodgers himself over a beer, he'd tell he f'd up and was a significant reason for the loss.
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16 years ago

Repeat after me people:
"It is a team effort when they win. It is a team effort when they lose."

"RedSoxExcel" wrote:



Man I don't understand how to make this any clearer. I could use about 15 quotes from this thread. This is not an attack on you wpr. I don't understand what everyone is talking about.

I said there are many reasons we lost. Coaching, punting, run defence, o-line, etc. The whole point was that it is INSANE if you think the QB is not PART of the blame when he throws a boneheaded INT down 3 points with 5 mins left in the 4th quarter. I never once said the loss is his solely his fault. The point is no one should get a free pass. Stop throwing out 300+ yards and 3 TD's - when 1 TD and a bunch of yards are a team in prevent defence.

My whole point/bottom line: The defence was on the bench (I still have to check on this). The o-line gave him time on that play. Down THREE points, in the FOURTH quarter. He threw a BRUTAL INT, just as bad as Favre's one in OT against the Giants. He is part of hte reason we lost. And I can't even count on my fingers the nubmer of people think he is not part of the blame. Its insane to me. Thats all I'm saying. Thats it. Go back and show me where I said that this fault is solely his fault. Please. People love blaming everyone but Rodgers because he's the Golden Boy. Be objective people. I bet you anything if you asked Rodgers himself over a beer, he'd tell he f'd up and was a significant reason for the loss.

"wpr" wrote:



I don't feel picked upon as the last itme I checked the QB position was still considered a member of the football team.

Also: American English = defense. Britsh English = defence. Go figure. :shrug:
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longtimefan
16 years ago

Repeat after me people:
"It is a team effort when they win. It is a team effort when they lose."

"RedSoxExcel" wrote:



Man I don't understand how to make this any clearer. I could use about 15 quotes from this thread. This is not an attack on you wpr. I don't understand what everyone is talking about.

I said there are many reasons we lost. Coaching, punting, run defence, o-line, etc. The whole point was that it is INSANE if you think the QB is not PART of the blame when he throws a boneheaded INT down 3 points with 5 mins left in the 4th quarter. I never once said the loss is his solely his fault. The point is no one should get a free pass. Stop throwing out 300+ yards and 3 TD's - when 1 TD and a bunch of yards are a team in prevent defence.

My whole point/bottom line: The defence was on the bench (I still have to check on this). The o-line gave him time on that play. Down THREE points, in the FOURTH quarter. He threw a BRUTAL INT, just as bad as Favre's one in OT against the Giants. He is part of hte reason we lost. And I can't even count on my fingers the nubmer of people think he is not part of the blame. Its insane to me. Thats all I'm saying. Thats it. Go back and show me where I said that this fault is solely his fault. Please. People love blaming everyone but Rodgers because he's the Golden Boy. Be objective people. I bet you anything if you asked Rodgers himself over a beer, he'd tell he f'd up and was a significant reason for the loss.

"wpr" wrote:



this really confused me

dint wp say it was a team loss?

and you go on and on about how Aaron Rodgers should get part blame

so are you mad at wp, did you misunderstand his post, or are you agreeing with him?
dd80forever
16 years ago
Great Post Red Sox. A-Rod is to blame as is everyone else. The team is just not as good as some people thought. I've been saying that since last year. This team has no identity and Mike McCarthy just hasn't been able to rally the troops.

We can't be a power running team because the O-line is soft. A-Rod can't make the throws or quick decisions Brett did, eliminating the feared 5 wr set. The Defense can't stop the run because we have no depth. The Secondary is injury depleted. Hell, even our special teams look bad. Our coaching staff seems lost. They have not made proper adjustments and refuse to hold anyone accountable for mistakes.


This team is going south real fast.
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ILikeThePackers39
16 years ago

Repeat after me people:
"It is a team effort when they win. It is a team effort when they lose."

"RedSoxExcel" wrote:



Man I don't understand how to make this any clearer. I could use about 15 quotes from this thread. This is not an attack on you wpr. I don't understand what everyone is talking about.

I said there are many reasons we lost. Coaching, punting, run defence, o-line, etc. The whole point was that it is INSANE if you think the QB is not PART of the blame when he throws a boneheaded INT down 3 points with 5 mins left in the 4th quarter. I never once said the loss is his solely his fault. The point is no one should get a free pass. Stop throwing out 300+ yards and 3 TD's - when 1 TD and a bunch of yards are a team in prevent defence.

My whole point/bottom line: The defence was on the bench (I still have to check on this). The o-line gave him time on that play. Down THREE points, in the FOURTH quarter. He threw a BRUTAL INT, just as bad as Favre's one in OT against the Giants. He is part of hte reason we lost. And I can't even count on my fingers the nubmer of people think he is not part of the blame. Its insane to me. Thats all I'm saying. Thats it. Go back and show me where I said that this fault is solely his fault. Please. People love blaming everyone but Rodgers because he's the Golden Boy. Be objective people. I bet you anything if you asked Rodgers himself over a beer, he'd tell he f'd up and was a significant reason for the loss.

"wpr" wrote:




Okay, I guess I'm an idiot, because I don't remember anyone saying Aaron was blameless. Obviously he isn't, seeing as how we lost by 3 and his INT led to 7.

I've been critical of Aaron's play when it deserved it and will continue to be, when it deserves it. Same as I was with the last QB.

There are a total of like 4-5 people on this board who can't seem to get that supporting the current QB isn't a slam on the former one -- you seem to be one of them. It's either "Brett sucks and Aaron can do no wrong" or "Aaron's a plague upon GB and Brett is perfection" with you people. That's what bothers the rest of us -- I actually looked through this thread and I can't find more than one or two statements that even resemble "Aaron was perfect, the rest of the team lost the game", yet you're going on an on about how nobody's blaming the guy.

It makes no sense -- obviously Aaron shares the blame for the loss, and I don't even have to have a beer with him to hear him say it. He said it, to the press, for the record. If we'd played some D, however, he might never even have been throwing on that drive in the first place. He shares the blame, but you're crazy if you don't think we have bigger problems than QB play at the moment.
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ILikeThePackers39
16 years ago

A-Rod can't make the throws or quick decisions Brett did, eliminating the feared 5 wr set.

"dd80forever" wrote:




Is it possible that the fact we haven't had 5 healthy wrs for the majority of the games we've played so far might have something to do with elimitating the 5 wr set?

Maybe?
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IronMan
16 years ago

A-Rod can't make the throws or quick decisions Brett did, eliminating the feared 5 wr set.

"ILikeThePackers39" wrote:




Is it possible that the fact we haven't had 5 healthy wrs for the majority of the games we've played so far might have something to do with elimitating the 5 wr set?

Maybe?

"dd80forever" wrote:


Beat me to it.
16 years ago

A-Rod can't make the throws or quick decisions Brett did, eliminating the feared 5 wr set.

"IronMan" wrote:




Is it possible that the fact we haven't had 5 healthy wrs for the majority of the games we've played so far might have something to do with elimitating the 5 wr set?

Maybe?

"ILikeThePackers39" wrote:


Beat me to it.

"dd80forever" wrote:


I think getting Ruvell Martin back was really big for us and not too forget JJ.
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