HoustonMatt
16 years ago



At the end of the day this is what I care about:

Down 23-21 against the Bucs in the 4th quarter, 2+ mins left and picked off.

Down 20-17 against the Falcons in the 4th quarter, picked off.

"tromadz" wrote:



Simple. The defense and special teams shouldn't have this team in a hole in the 4th quarter.

27 pts to the Falcons? Really?

Lets not ignore that UP to those points, Rodgers was playing very well, and yet the rest of the team failed on magnificent levels.

"RedSoxExcel" wrote:



Exactly. Not that Aaron deserves zero blame, but to do so is akin to blaming the clean-up hitter that went 3-3 with 4 RBIs before striking out in the bottom of the ninth with a runner in scoring position. It ignores the fact that his contributions throughout the game were a primary reason that he was in position to "fail" in the first place. It's more reasonable to blame the pitching staff that gave up 7 runs to make this a 7-6 game in the ninth inning in the first place.
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all_about_da_packers
16 years ago

I don't put it all on A-Rod. The O-Line stinks, we are thin on Def, Frost stinks, etc.

However we had a QB that could overcome that at one time, we don't anymore. A-Rod isn't a game changing QB. Just my observation.

"dd80forever" wrote:



DD80, I respect + applaud you being able to realize this isn't a one man problem, it's a collective problem.

As for the "QB who overcame that" bit, I think you have to put it in context: Favre had 17 years of experience that allowed him to cover many of the holes that have appeared this season.

Rodgers doesn't even have 1 full season as the starter. To say that Rodgers is not a game changing QB is jumping the gun IMO, you can't really call it until he's played 17 (or however many he'll play) years in the NFL.
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TheEngineer
16 years ago


I promised Krazy i would be nice so Rodgers did an OK job with the garbage time TD again like against Dallas but hey his stats are looking ok thats all that counts right folks? I thought this was about the Packers as a whole not one guy.

"dhazer" wrote:



So what are you saying, if you're down by 7+ points to give up? Rodgers was trying to lead the team back after throwing the (very) costly interception. The defense had 2 minutes to stop the Falcons drive, but they couldn't and we never saw the ball again.
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Zero2Cool
16 years ago

h. The Packers would not give Aaron Rodgers a pain-killing injection to play Sunday. "We don't do that,'' Mike McCarthy told me Saturday afternoon. Other teams do. Who's right? Who's wrong? I don't know. But it's an interesting observation.



No pain-killer?
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IronMan
16 years ago

The defense had 2 minutes to stop the Falcons drive, but they couldn't and we never saw the ball again.

"TheEngineer" wrote:


Yeah that was disappointing. Especially that second down when Turner fell forward for 8 yards. That was really pathetic defense.
4PackGirl
16 years ago

I was enjoying this forum till the anti Rodgers people showed up . I left the other forum because of the Favre groupies. I was hoping they would stay there and continue their Rodgers, Ted Thompson,Mike McCarthy and Packers bashing without it spilling over in here. I guess that's too much to ask. (Rust never sleeps and cancer spreads)

Everyone here knew Rodgers and the Packers would have some growing pains. Everyone here knew we would have a tougher schedule this season.
We didn't expect as many key injuries as we have had but that's football.
The point is that this is a team effort. Packers win and loose as a team.
Rodgers is our QB and is doing a pretty good job so far. Especially for this being his first year as a starter.

Brett is great but he isn't a Packer anymore and never will be again.
Get over it or move on to the Jets. I'm sick of the whinning about Brett.
When we were loosing games with Brett I didn't whine about wanting another QB. It wasn't all on Brett and these losses aren't all on Aaron. This is a team sport and unless someone on that team is playing very badly we should support them.

Go ahead and support Brett (I do) but stop coming in here and trying to say we are loosing because of Aaron. We aren't. We are loosing because as a team GB isn't playing sound football on either side of the ball.

"DGB454" wrote:



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walleye
16 years ago
This loss was a team effort exept for Rodgers, this hguy played extremly well with a fudged up shoulder.
And for all you Rodgers haters 2 words for you.
BITE ME!!!
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brnt247
16 years ago
Reasons why we lost-

Not containing White or Turner
Going 3 and out on our first drive after they scored a TD
Not containing their returner after we tied the game at 17-17 leading to a field goal for them.
4th quarter interception while down 3.

Rodgers isn't to blame for the loss, but he did make a mistake that lead to the loss. That can be said for nearly every player on this team though, and there is nothing to say that this same situation could have been avoided with Favre rather than Rodgers.
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Roddyboy
16 years ago
14-3 last year says it.

6-1 last year says it too.

Don't make up revisionist history regarding BF and Aaron Rodgers please!
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walleye
16 years ago
Back to that BS again WTF??????
who cares Favre is GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!
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