The_Green_Ninja
15 years ago
I am no genius, just a regular man with regular thoughts... but if something like the the war or national security is run by the government... shouldn't they have all the power over it? I believe when Palin says "less government" she means less government in what the government doesn't own and control.
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Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago

A few minutes with Joe the Plumber 

Joe the Plumber (aka Samuel J.Wurzelbacher) headlined state Representative Sam Rohrers Mobilize for Liberty event in Harrisburg today, giving the Berks County lawmaker his support a few hours after Rohrer mustered just a dozen votes in the State Republican Committees gubernatorial endorsement meeting.

Joes endorsement is apparently quite the coup. He says more than 200 politicians have asked for support this year, but so far, hes only backed five. I need to talk to candidates before I endorse, he told me afterwards, explaining that his bar is pretty high. We have a series of conversations 20 to 30 minute conversations and I grill them. I ask them questions about energy, education make sure theyre straight. Wurzelbacher says he also vets candidates online.

So why Rohrer? He says they share many of the same values the Second Amendment, states independence, integrity, honesty. Plus, Sam is really favored amongst the tea parties. It takes a lot for them to get behind an individual.

Wurzelbacher touched on several different points during his speech, and many of them were surprising. He said he doesnt support Sarah Palin anymore. Why? Because shes backing John McCains re-election effort. John McCain is no public servant, he told the room, calling the 2008 Republican nominee a career politician.

I pointed out hed just be plain old Sam Wurzelbacher of Ohio Joe the Plumber wouldnt exist without McCain. His response was blunt. I dont owe him s. He really screwed my life up, is how I look at it.

Wurzelbacher said, McCain was trying to use me. I happened to be the face of middle Americans. It was a ploy.

So whys he still milking the Joe the Plumber image, appearing at conservative events across the country? Wurzelbacher says its his duty to take advantage of the platform hes been given. He wants to talk up the issues he cares about, and encourage the grassroots tea party movement.

Wurzelbacher also told the room to lay off the extreme personal attacks on President Obama. He said people who question whether Obama was born in the United States or compare him to Hitler belittle and set back the conservative movement. The birthers, the truthers if people are trying to bunch them [with tea partiers], that would kill us. That just pushes away Democrats and independents who might come out for our cause otherwise. He said he actually likes Obama, in some ways. I think his ideology is un-American, but hes one of the more honest politicians. At least he told us what he wanted to do.


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