RajiRoar
15 years ago
im up in the air between Porter and Merriman, if we could land either one for a decent price i'd be happy.

any upgrade to the roster makes me happy. and I dont think 1 guy can cause that much trouble, as long as he isnt suspended and hurtin the team i dont care what they do.

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Wade
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15 years ago
Okay, I'm on record on saying I want Ted to take a more risky approach in the non-draft part of the offseason. So I can't really complain if he decides to get Porter.

But personally, I think Porter's days are behind him. And with the exception of quarterback, I think it's better having more than one guy who can take serious reps regularly. And given that, Porter would worry me a bit: it's one thing to complain about reps if you're clearly the best option on every play; but it's another if you've got solid players there who can also perform.

I"m going to get in trouble with this analogy but here goes: if I have a choice between a raw recruit and Audie Murphy, I want Audie Murphy. But if I have a choice between a platoon of experienced Marines and Audie Murphy, I want the Marines.
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British
15 years ago

How the hell is he a douche? Aside from Clay Matthews, he'd already be the best OLB on the team.

If you were the best linebacker on your team, and the coach wanted to sit you in favor of a player who simply had upside and no defined skill, you wouldn't be mad?

You're paid millions of dollars to play. That's exactly what Porter was expecting. Instead, coach benches him.

He didn't complain when Pittsburgh didn't re-sign him because he knew James Harrison was good. Cameron Wake is good, but nowhere in the league of Joey Porter--that's why he was upset.

I'd rather have a player upset about his playing time than a player upset about his money.

"blueleopard" wrote:



He's paid millions by the team, the least he can do is do what his employer tells him to do.

With the money we already have tied up at the position I don't see us putting another huge salary there, especially for a guy who's on the decline, was cut by an inferior team and has questionable character.

If a player is linked to the Bills then we shouldn't be interested.
blueleopard
15 years ago

Not to mention he talks mad shit about almost every team he plays every week.

"coltonja" wrote:



what he said. No way do I want him here. My older brother is a Dolfan and he was rjoicing to see this guy go. A mediocre player plus a huge ego and attitude problem, no thanks

"doddpower" wrote:



A player who just came off a Pro Bowl year is mediocre. Okay. I wonder what that makes all our linebackers whose name isn't Clay Matthews?

So what if he talks mad shit about other teams? He has a passion for competition. I'm sorry, but in this modern age of football, not all the good players are the ones who shut up and do their jobs. Chris Johnson talks mad shit all the time, but he's the best running back in the NFL. Darren Sharper did a lot of it, but he's arguably been putting up hall of fame stats for years. He makes mistakes, but everyone in the league does.

And being afraid of someone because of being a character issue means you have no confidence in our coaching staff. If someone is a character issue on our team, then that only shows how crappy our coaching staff is for not keeping the man in check.

I know the odds of a Porter signing are extremely slim, but the empty pride some of you have literally makes me sick.

"Hey, that guy is one of the best at what he does, but I don't want him because he acts like every other person in the world!"

Gimme a break.
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bozz_2006
15 years ago
Should we try and sign T.O., too? It's not "empty pride", as you put it. It's not a matter of principle or anything like that. The guy's an absolute prick, and I don't want him messing up my favorite team.
go.pack.go.
15 years ago
You see this is the problem....people complain about Ted Thompson not going out and getting big name free agents, but when it is brought to subject that we are interested, sometimes we don't want them because they aren't "packer people".

Damn, it's not like you're going to get a saint every time you go sign a F/A. Sometimes you have to get the player that will help your team get to the superbowl and deal with how they act. It's not like Joey Porter causes problems off the field, he just gets in the heads of opponents by talking trash. I don't see any problem in that. I like his attitude.
dhazer
15 years ago
I remember getting a certain player back in our super bowl season, that was known as a trouble maker but he helped the team win it all. Remember the likes of Andre Rison and hell even Howard wasn't a so called packer type.
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bozz_2006
15 years ago
It's not a question of whether or not he's a "Packer Person". I feel like Kampman is a Packer Person; he's nice to everyone. And he plays well for us. I feel like we also have quite a few non-Packer People. Guys like Al Harris, Josh Sitton, and Nick Barnett all do there fair share of jawing back and forth with the opposing team. The difference between these guys and Joey Porter is that Porter is a polarizing figure in the huddle and in the locker room. He causes problems for his own team because of his immature and selfish behavior. That's what I don't want. I could care less if the guy talks shit 24/7, but when he starts dragging his team down, like Porter has done on both the NFL teams he has played on, I don't want the Packers to be the third.
porky88
15 years ago

I remember getting a certain player back in our super bowl season, that was known as a trouble maker but he helped the team win it all. Remember the likes of Andre Rison and hell even Howard wasn't a so called packer type.

"dhazer" wrote:



Eugene Robinson wasn't an angel either. I highly doubt going from Green Bay to Atlanta is what changed him. People would be surprised to see what kind of a person some of the players are in their lives.

Porter has won a Super Bowl before so the idea that he would do harm to the team on the field seems wrong. If he adds eight or nine sacks, that's a nice figure to have opposite of Clay Matthews.

Still, I'm mixed on him. He's always rubbed me the wrong way. He seems high maintenance. If he can't play on running downs, he shouldn't be playing on those downs and that's basically why he's gone from Miami right now. If he's a liability against the run, I may pass even if he does add eight or nine sacks. KGB was the same player I recall.

I think this is a locker room that can handle Porter, but I wouldn't pay big time cash for him like I would some of the other names I've mentioned in other threads. Peppers or Merrimen to be specific.
bozz_2006
15 years ago
I don't want Porter for the same reason I wouldn't want T.O. Can our locker room handle a guy like that? Probably. But I don't think he adds enough to the team to be worth having to handle.
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