Smokey
8 years ago

The NFL desperately wants this story to go away.

Originally Posted by: greengold 



As does Zero2Cool, I wonder why ?

I recommend reading post 16, this thread !

You can fool All the people some of the time, and Some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool All of the people All of the time !


[cheers] [cheers] [cheers]
UserPostedImage
musccy
  • musccy
  • Veteran Member Topic Starter
8 years ago
I acknowledge that it's conceivable that any one of the claims against the Pats is blown out of proportion.

With headsets, ironically enough, PFT reported the Jets had this issue IN PITTSBURGH during the playoffs a few years ago. They also reported this is a common occurrence at Joe Robbie or whatever the hell the Dolphins' stadium is now. I acknowledge it's possible to happen elsewhere. With that said, it's curious timing, coming off deflategate, and me reading about this for months, then it happens the first game.

Any of the situations, aside from the signal spying, I could see as being explained away. It's that we hear these things so often - and I don't buy the whole "but they're good" argument. Many teams have been good, not nearly as many complaints as the Pats. If you have some time, read through this SI article Pats history  that outlines the sum of so many small parts, including the Packers being suspicious of them filming their pre game.

I'm not even necessarily saying this negates their success. They've won because they're disciplined, work hard, and have key leaders at key spots in the organization. With that said, I no longer doubt that they push the boundaries, and as the SI article says, walk a mile to gain an inch.
gbguy20
8 years ago

As does Zero2Cool, I wonder why ?

I recommend reading post 16, this thread !

You can fool All the people some of the time, and Some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool All of the people All of the time !


[cheers] [cheers] [cheers]

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



Luckily when they're already a fool you don't need to bother with any of that.

I acknowledge that it's conceivable that any one of the claims against the Pats is blown out of proportion.

With headsets, ironically enough, PFT reported the Jets had this issue IN PITTSBURGH during the playoffs a few years ago. They also reported this is a common occurrence at Joe Robbie or whatever the hell the Dolphins' stadium is now. I acknowledge it's possible to happen elsewhere. With that said, it's curious timing, coming off deflategate, and me reading about this for months, then it happens the first game.

Any of the situations, aside from the signal spying, I could see as being explained away. It's that we hear these things so often - and I don't buy the whole "but they're good" argument. Many teams have been good, not nearly as many complaints as the Pats. If you have some time, read through this SI article Pats history  that outlines the sum of so many small parts, including the Packers being suspicious of them filming their pre game.

I'm not even necessarily saying this negates their success. They've won because they're disciplined, work hard, and have key leaders at key spots in the organization. With that said, I no longer doubt that they push the boundaries, and as the SI article says, walk a mile to gain an inch.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



It was a problem in the preseason, why bother with it then?
Cheesey
8 years ago
Musccy said "People would search for flaws in Ghandi if he was winning too many games."
But you can bet Ghandi was a man of character and would never over inflate footballs or mess with headsets.

The reason the Patriots get scrutinized so much is because they have a HISTORY of ignoring rules. They seem to think rules don't apply to them, because they are just so darn special.

They will use/abuse anything they can to gain an edge. If it's within the rules, fine, if not, I have NO respect for them.

But what has now been proven in the NFL, Goodell has NO control and anything goes. So might as well throw out the rule book. It serves no purpose.
It's like the B.S. gun control laws.......they ONLY effect those that follow the laws, not the criminals.

Thus ends my sermon for ther day.🤣
UserPostedImage
Zero2Cool
8 years ago
Didn't feel like having another thread about Patriots so stuffing this here. You heard the accusations about Patriots bugging the visitor locker room right? Get this ...

NFL swept Jets locker room for bugs before Sunday’s game
---
Patriots have become concerned that a team eventually will plant bugs on its own and claim that the Patriots put them there. This has prompted the Patriots to ask the league to certify before each game that the visiting locker room is clean before an opposing team enters. Per the source, the NFL has declined to do this.



And Commissioner is worried about the integrity of the game, but refuses to equality and fairness here?
UserPostedImage
Fan Shout
Martha Careful (10-May) : 1. this is true of all our linemen. 2. His run block is fine. 3. If all OL played like he has, we would win SB.
beast (10-May) : Meyers pass blocking is really good, his run blocking is really not.
Zero2Cool (9-May) : Packers have claimed DE Spencer Waege off of waivers from the 49ers and waived DT Rodney Mathews.
Zero2Cool (9-May) : And the OL protections seem to be good.
Zero2Cool (9-May) : I really don't know lol. I don't see him getting blown up.
Zero2Cool (9-May) : -3 buwahhhahaaha
Mucky Tundra (9-May) : 4th
Zero2Cool (9-May) : because he's 1st
Mucky Tundra (9-May) : Myers isn't even the 3rd best C on the roster atm
Martha Careful (9-May) : I am not sure I understand the Myers hate. He was consistently our third best lineman. RG and LT were worse.
beast (9-May) : Just saying I don't think moving Myers would help Myers.
beast (9-May) : Center is usually considered the easiest position physically if you can handle the snap stuff.
Mucky Tundra (8-May) : Bust it is then
Zero2Cool (8-May) : Context. Sounds like Myers won't be cross-trained. C or bust.
Mucky Tundra (8-May) : @BookOfEli_NFL Packers pass game coordinator, Jason Vrable said that Jayden Reed and Dontayvion Wicks shared a placed in Florida while train
Mucky Tundra (8-May) : For now...
Zero2Cool (8-May) : Packers go about evaluating their "best five," OL coach Luke Butkus makes on thing clear: "Josh Myers is our center."
beast (8-May) : Though I'm a bit surprised letting go of CBs, I thought we needed more not less
beast (8-May) : It was confusing with two DB Anthony Johnson anyways
Zero2Cool (8-May) : Packers actually had Ray Lewis on the phone.
Zero2Cool (8-May) : Packers wanted to draft Ray Lewis. Ravens stole him.
Martha Careful (6-May) : Happy 93rd Birthday to the Greatest Baseball Player of All-Time...Willie Mays
Zero2Cool (6-May) : Walter Stanely's son
buckeyepackfan (6-May) : and released CB Anthony Johnson and DL Deandre Johnson and waived/injured WR Thyrick Pitts (thigh-rick).
buckeyepackfan (6-May) : The Green Bay Packers have signed WR Julian Hicks, OL Lecitus Smith (luh-SEET-us) and WR Dimitri Stanley
Zero2Cool (6-May) : Petty, but it's annoying me how the NFL is making the schedule release an event.
Mucky Tundra (4-May) : @mattschneidman Matt LaFleur on how he tore his pec: “Got in a fight with the bench press. I lost.”
Zero2Cool (3-May) : Jordan Love CAN sign an extension as of today. Might tak weeks/months though
TheKanataThrilla (3-May) : Packers decline 5th year option for Stokes
Mucky Tundra (3-May) : @ProFootballTalk Jaylen Warren: Steelers' special teams coach has discussed Justin Fields returning kicks.
Zero2Cool (2-May) : Season officially ending tonight for Bucks ... sad face
Zero2Cool (2-May) : Giannis Antetokounmpo is listed as out for tonight's game.
dfosterf (2-May) : Surprisingly low initially is my guess cap wise, but gonna pay the piper after that
dfosterf (2-May) : The number on Love is going to be brutal.
Zero2Cool (2-May) : May 3rd. Extension day for Jordan Love. (soonest)
Zero2Cool (1-May) : USFL MVP QB Alex McGough moved to WR. So that's why no WR drafted!
earthquake (1-May) : Packers draft starters at safety ever few years. Collins, Clinton-Dix, Savage
beast (1-May) : Why can't the rookies be a day 1 starter? Especially when we grabbed 3 of them at the position
dfosterf (1-May) : Not going to be shocked if Gilmore goes to the Lions.
dfosterf (1-May) : I hear you dhazer, but my guess would be Gilmore Colts and Howard Vikings from what little has been reported.
Mucky Tundra (30-Apr) : S learn from McKinney who learns from Hafley who learns from the fans. Guaranteed Super Bowl
Zero2Cool (30-Apr) : could*
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : Safeties should learn from Xavier.
dhazer (29-Apr) : And what about grabbing a Gilmore or Howard at CB ? Those are all Free Agents left
dhazer (29-Apr) : out of curiosity do they try and sign Simmons or Hyde to let these young safeties learn from, they can't be day 1 starters.
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : I miss having Sam Shields.
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : Not that he's making excuses, just pointing it out
Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : That's for dang sure. Make our erratic kicker have no excuse!
packerfanoutwest (28-Apr) : having a great long snapper is gold
Zero2Cool (28-Apr) : LaFleur looking like he had some weight. Coachin will do that lol
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2023 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 10 @ 3:25 PM
Bears
Sunday, Sep 17 @ 12:00 PM
Falcons
Sunday, Sep 24 @ 12:00 PM
SAINTS
Thursday, Sep 28 @ 7:15 PM
LIONS
Monday, Oct 9 @ 7:15 PM
Raiders
Sunday, Oct 22 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Sunday, Oct 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Nov 5 @ 12:00 PM
RAMS
Sunday, Nov 12 @ 12:00 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 19 @ 12:00 PM
CHARGERS
Thursday, Nov 23 @ 11:30 AM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 3 @ 7:20 PM
CHIEFS
Monday, Dec 11 @ 7:15 PM
Giants
Sunday, Dec 17 @ 12:00 PM
BUCCANEERS
Sunday, Dec 24 @ 12:00 PM
Panthers
Sunday, Dec 31 @ 7:20 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 7 @ 3:25 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 14 @ 3:30 PM
Cowboys
Saturday, Jan 20 @ 7:15 PM
49ers
Recent Topics
32m / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

23h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

10-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

10-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

9-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

7-May / Packers Draft Threads / Mucky Tundra

7-May / Packers Draft Threads / Mucky Tundra

5-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / beast

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

5-May / Packers Draft Threads / wpr

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.