sschind
9 years ago

I understand but he is already out there on the field. Half the plays were running plays (and I know they still need to run the ball.) and two were passes off into the flats. It was a waste of his talent and time. Of the 6 plays only one of them was a pass more than a few yards down field. Why even expose him to a potential injury at all? If he is out there let him try and move the ball.

Either keep him out altogether or let him compete. They did neither.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



I don't disagree with that but at what point does it then become simply letting him try for the record and is that considered sportsmanship? You run the offense the way you run the offense and if the record comes it comes. Its one thing to go on a 10 play 70 yard drive and throw A TD pass to get the record it another to go down field on 3 consecutive plays to try to get it. Still, if they are going to hand the ball off then Flynn should have been in there.

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9 years ago

I don't disagree with that but at what point does it then become simply letting him try for the record and is that considered sportsmanship? You run the offense the way you run the offense and if the record comes it comes. Its one thing to go on a 10 play 70 yard drive and throw A TD pass to get the record it another to go down field on 3 consecutive plays to try to get it. Still, if they are going to hand the ball off then Flynn should have been in there.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



right. I am not saying they needed to go for the 80 yard bomb. But the clearly changed the play calling to start the 2nd half. It was pointless to have Aaron in if that was all they were going to do. Perhaps they wanted to see if the bears were going to simply lay down and roll over.
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9 years ago

I don't disagree with that but at what point does it then become simply letting him try for the record and is that considered sportsmanship? You run the offense the way you run the offense and if the record comes it comes. Its one thing to go on a 10 play 70 yard drive and throw A TD pass to get the record it another to go down field on 3 consecutive plays to try to get it. Still, if they are going to hand the ball off then Flynn should have been in there.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



Eh, the "sportsmanship" thing is overrated, imo. If you don't want your opponent to score, than freakin' stop them. Teams (should) come to play for 60 minutes, so no one should be surprised if they are still playing their game throughout the third quarter. Late fourth quarter may be different, but not the early third. Live reps are invaluable, even for players like Aaron Rodgers. Of cource Rodgers et al. should play very smart in those situations, but there's nothing wrong with them continuing to play. In fact, if the Packers were getting beat that bad, I want would the opposing team to keep their foot on the throttle. If a team is playing as bad as the Bears were playing, they SHOULD be embarrassed. Perhaps it will be a catalyst for change. Perhaps it also gives them a chance to improve and figure out how to stop the opposing team.

I've never felt sorry for teams getting pummeled. It's not the opposing teams responsibility to take it easy on them. This isn't high school sports or the little leagues. These are grown professional men making millions of dollars. It's not being a poor sport to simply play the game. The Packers can't help that the Bears simply could not stop them. That's their problem, not the Packers. A team also can't play scared and be worried about getting injured, because that's when it will likely happen.

I don't necessarily disagree with pulling Rodgers. However, I definitely wouldn't disagree with leaving him in longer and continuing to play their game. Certainly through the 3rd quarter. The Bears or any other team in their position would have no one to be mad at but themselves, not the Packers. If they were pissed off at the Packers for continuing to execute their game plan, then they would be sore losers and misdirecting their hostility, imo. The woe is me thing isn't going to improve anyone.
dyeah_gb
9 years ago

If the Bears had put up any kind of resistance, I could see us going for it.

But, they diddnt.

Do. Not. Risk. The. Franchise.

The last thing we need is Shea McCellen attacking Rodgers collarbone again.

Originally Posted by: Laser Gunns 



This is my take on this as well. If the game was within 2-3 scores, I am sure Rodgers would have stayed in and had 8 TDs . But it was a blowout and I would have pulled Rodgers after the first series.


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sschind
9 years ago

Eh, the "sportsmanship" thing is overrated, imo. If you don't want your opponent to score, than freakin' stop them. Teams (should) come to play for 60 minutes, so no one should be surprised if they are still playing their game throughout the third quarter. Late fourth quarter may be different, but not the early third. Live reps are invaluable, even for players like Aaron Rodgers. Of cource Rodgers et al. should play very smart in those situations, but there's nothing wrong with them continuing to play. In fact, if the Packers were getting beat that bad, I want would the opposing team to keep their foot on the throttle. If a team is playing as bad as the Bears were playing, they SHOULD be embarrassed. Perhaps it will be a catalyst for change. Perhaps it also gives them a chance to improve and figure out how to stop the opposing team.

I've never felt sorry for teams getting pummeled. It's not the opposing teams responsibility to take it easy on them. This isn't high school sports or the little leagues. These are grown professional men making millions of dollars. It's not being a poor sport to simply play the game. The Packers can't help that the Bears simply could not stop them. That's their problem, not the Packers. A team also can't play scared and be worried about getting injured, because that's when it will likely happen.

I don't necessarily disagree with pulling Rodgers. However, I definitely wouldn't disagree with leaving him in longer and continuing to play their game. Certainly through the 3rd quarter. The Bears or any other team in their position would have no one to be mad at but themselves, not the Packers. If they were pissed off at the Packers for continuing to execute their game plan, then they would be sore losers and misdirecting their hostility, imo. The woe is me thing isn't going to improve anyone.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



For the most part I agree with all of this. My beef is leaving a player exposed unnecessarily to injuries. Fans complain when passing teams keep passing even when the game is out of reach but the thing is that is their game. That is how they move the ball to get first downs. Its just that the goal has changed. Early on it is to move the ball to score later on it is to move the ball to run out the clock. I agree that expecting them to run 3 times then punt is unrealistic. Still, going for long passes deep down field just to get more TDs is something I think is a little tacky. Most coaches and players on the losing end will say what you did. "If we don't want them scoring we should stop them." Its not them that I worry about though. Its my team that is pouring it on when it is not necessary that makes them look like jerks. If the Packers were on the losing end I wouldn't look poorly on the Bears for pouring it on. Its kind of hard to explain. I guess its like yeah I don't really expect you to do that but when you do I think it shows a bit of class.
buckeyepackfan
9 years ago
Hw will just have to get the record this week against Philly!!!

[grin1]
I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
sschind
9 years ago

Hw will just have to get the record this week against Philly!!!

[grin1]

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



I'll be happy if he just ties it again.

DoddPower
9 years ago

For the most part I agree with all of this. My beef is leaving a player exposed unnecessarily to injuries. Fans complain when passing teams keep passing even when the game is out of reach but the thing is that is their game. That is how they move the ball to get first downs. Its just that the goal has changed. Early on it is to move the ball to score later on it is to move the ball to run out the clock. I agree that expecting them to run 3 times then punt is unrealistic. Still, going for long passes deep down field just to get more TDs is something I think is a little tacky. Most coaches and players on the losing end will say what you did. "If we don't want them scoring we should stop them." Its not them that I worry about though. Its my team that is pouring it on when it is not necessary that makes them look like jerks. If the Packers were on the losing end I wouldn't look poorly on the Bears for pouring it on. Its kind of hard to explain. I guess its like yeah I don't really expect you to do that but when you do I think it shows a bit of class.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



When the Packers are getting embarrassed, I truly want them to get humiliated. It probably sounds bad, but sometimes true embarrassment is the only catalyst for real change. And if the team is getting embarrassed in the first place, something probably isn't going right. For example, another humiliating loss in the playoffs should be absolutely unacceptable to this regime.
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9 years ago

When the Packers are getting embarrassed, I truly want them to get humiliated. It probably sounds bad, but sometimes true embarrassment is the only catalyst for real change. And if the team is getting embarrassed in the first place, something probably isn't going right. For example, another humiliating loss in the playoffs should be absolutely unacceptable to this regime.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



You know it won't be. After all they made the playoffs which seems to be the only goal for some. After so many teams don't. 🙄
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