Chutzpah515
13 years ago

"It's a win, so we're happy about that," Rodgers said. "Offensively, we've got to find our identity again. I think we've got to make sure that we've got our best players on the field at all times and find ways to get them the ball."

Sounds like our QB is smarter than our coach. Maybe Mike McCarthy should maintain his authority but listen a little? Thoughts?

"Johnson" wrote:



You know I'm in total agreement. I would go in to detail, but I don't want to :horse: yet again...
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Johnson
13 years ago

"It's a win, so we're happy about that," Rodgers said. "Offensively, we've got to find our identity again. I think we've got to make sure that we've got our best players on the field at all times and find ways to get them the ball."

Sounds like our QB is smarter than our coach. Maybe Mike McCarthy should maintain his authority but listen a little? Thoughts?

"Johnson" wrote:



I mean, that's a "Duh" statement by A-Rod. Something that a coach shouldn't have to be told by his QB. Is it valid? I only watched the 1st quarter of the Lions game, so what did everyone see in this regard? Did Mike McCarthy not have his best players on the field at all times and did he not feed them the football?
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Chutzpah515
13 years ago

"It's a win, so we're happy about that," Rodgers said. "Offensively, we've got to find our identity again. I think we've got to make sure that we've got our best players on the field at all times and find ways to get them the ball."

Sounds like our QB is smarter than our coach. Maybe Mike McCarthy should maintain his authority but listen a little? Thoughts?

"Johnson" wrote:



Honestly, I don't think Mike McCarthy could maintain his authority even if he wanted to. That's the biggest reason I think he is unfit to be an NFL coach. :horse:
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evad04
13 years ago

I like that Rodgers and McCarthy are on the same page. Even more, if they are not on the same page, I like that McCarthy won't air his dirty laundry like many coach-QB couples will. It is essential that the two of them stay on the same page. The fact that McCarthy is allowing Aaron to make decisions that will effect the gameplay one way or another is huge. It give Rodgers a sense of ownership, which makes it all that more important to him.
Its kind of like if a person works to buy a vehicle, they will value it and care for it much more, as opposed to the individual who gets a car just handed to them. Rodgers takes an immense amount of pride in the offense, and it shows.
Once we get some defensive players healthy, we can keep our offense on the field more than 22 minutes (that was ridiculous) and our offense will sync up.

"peteralan71" wrote:


+1 Good point about Rodgers' stake in the offense. Making a statement like he did, even if out of frustration, indicates that there is an ownership of the offense.

As far as running the ball against Detroit, there are a number of things to consider. First, it isn't a bad idea to attack Detroit on the ground. Green Bay may have only added 80 yards in their efforts, but Detroit seemed, at least statistically, ripe for the picking. Detroit currently ranks 25th in defensive rushing yards -- after giving up only 80 against Green Bay. Detroit had one of the worst rushing defenses through the first few games of the season. From a gameplan standpoint, and particularly considering Green Bay needed to evaluate what they had, it made sense to run against Detroit.

Let's keep this going a minute. The game against Chicago -- an overall poor rushing performance -- isn't the best indicator: so far this year Chicago has shut down the run, Giants notwithstanding. Detroit presented that opportunity. In the first half, it seemed to be paying off. On the opening drive, the run game was instrumental in moving the ball as well as setting up the touchdown. On the score, Detroit had brought an eighth man down into the box -- an act that most commonly coincides with a defense's intent to stop the run game.

Now, in the second half things fell apart. First drive went three-and-out. Next two drives ended in interceptions. The final drive -- the team's most obvious and intentional employ of the running game -- turned out to be the most successful (and crucial to the win).

The issue of balance, I think, can't be adequately evaluated. There just weren't enough run plays. But I think there were some positives.
William Henderson didn't have to run people over. His preferred method was levitation.
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Greg C.
13 years ago
Something that hasn't been emphasized enough here is that the run/pass ratio was mightily skewed by that final clock-killing drive, in which the Packers ran the ball on 10 of 12 plays. Up to that point, they had run the ball on just 11 of 28 plays. That seems like a pretty typical run/pass ratio for this team.

And of course the final drive was one of the successful ones. So you can't blame the offense's struggles on too many runs. Most of the problems were with the passing game.
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Pack93z
13 years ago
Greg.. that was my point.. Rodgers comment made little sense.. it wasn't the play calling that kept the offense off the field for the 3rd.. it was turnovers.. two of which were by his hand.. not his fault but he had a hand in them via the pass.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
dhazer
13 years ago

I like that Rodgers and McCarthy are on the same page. Even more, if they are not on the same page, I like that McCarthy won't air his dirty laundry like many coach-QB couples will. It is essential that the two of them stay on the same page. The fact that McCarthy is allowing Aaron to make decisions that will effect the gameplay one way or another is huge. It give Rodgers a sense of ownership, which makes it all that more important to him.
Its kind of like if a person works to buy a vehicle, they will value it and care for it much more, as opposed to the individual who gets a car just handed to them. Rodgers takes an immense amount of pride in the offense, and it shows.
Once we get some defensive players healthy, we can keep our offense on the field more than 22 minutes (that was ridiculous) and our offense will sync up.

"peteralan71" wrote:




Ummmm I have to ask what point are you trying to make? Rodgers was handed the starting job, unless you mean beating out 2 rookies as earning it even though he was the starter no matter what.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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Greg C.
13 years ago

I like that Rodgers and McCarthy are on the same page. Even more, if they are not on the same page, I like that McCarthy won't air his dirty laundry like many coach-QB couples will. It is essential that the two of them stay on the same page. The fact that McCarthy is allowing Aaron to make decisions that will effect the gameplay one way or another is huge. It give Rodgers a sense of ownership, which makes it all that more important to him.
Its kind of like if a person works to buy a vehicle, they will value it and care for it much more, as opposed to the individual who gets a car just handed to them. Rodgers takes an immense amount of pride in the offense, and it shows.
Once we get some defensive players healthy, we can keep our offense on the field more than 22 minutes (that was ridiculous) and our offense will sync up.

"dhazer" wrote:




Ummmm I have to ask what point are you trying to make? Rodgers was handed the starting job, unless you mean beating out 2 rookies as earning it even though he was the starter no matter what.

"peteralan71" wrote:



The analogy wasn't perfect, but I got it. The point is that if the QB has some say in how the offense operates, he will have extra motivation to perform well, as opposed to just taking orders from the coach and being a cog in the machine. Most coaches allow this to some extent, once the QB gets a little bit of experience under his belt, while other coaches are more dictatorial.
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dhazer
13 years ago
All I can say is wtf, I finally start to get behind Rodgers and granted it maybe taken out of context but is this the start of the diva coming out? With his comments it makes it sound like he wants the stats on the board and not worrying about winning. You can't be one dimensional in the NFL.

So please Rodgers go back to the politically correct person you have been the past 2 years.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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evad04
13 years ago

All I can say is wtf, I finally start to get behind Rodgers and granted it maybe taken out of context but is this the start of the diva coming out? With his comments it makes it sound like he wants the stats on the board and not worrying about winning. You can't be one dimensional in the NFL.

So please Rodgers go back to the politically correct person you have been the past 2 years.

"dhazer" wrote:


Aware of the term "overreaction"?
William Henderson didn't have to run people over. His preferred method was levitation.
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