rabidgopher04
14 years ago

Rodgers obviously needs to lead the offense to more than 36 yards per game

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Yes, yes he does. 😛
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

Zero, they came into the fourth quarter down by double digits, after having scored zero points in the third quarter. Yes, they staged a comeback, and that's great, but it's very disturbing how many games the team has gone scoreless in the third quarter this year.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



You shouldn't lose a game you score 36 points in. A top ranked defense shouldn't be giving up more than 17 points or so a game.

I sure won't be discrediting the effort of the offense picking up the slack that the defense was laying down by saying it was desperation mode bull. It's doing what has to be done to win the game!

With such a vastly depth vocab you possess, I would expect a better word choice than 'desperation'. I simply disagree with that. I think it was the team doing what it had to do to position themselves to win.
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nerdmann
14 years ago

Zero, they came into the fourth quarter down by double digits, after having scored zero points in the third quarter. Yes, they staged a comeback, and that's great, but it's very disturbing how many games the team has gone scoreless in the third quarter this year.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



You shouldn't lose a game you score 36 points in. A top ranked defense shouldn't be giving up more than 17 points or so a game.

I sure won't be discrediting the effort of the offense picking up the slack that the defense was laying down by saying it was desperation mode bull. It's doing what has to be done to win the game!

With such a vastly depth vocab you possess, I would expect a better word choice than 'desperation'. I simply disagree with that. I think it was the team doing what it had to do to position themselves to win.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:




The defense played balls out. If the WRs catch those balls, and Crosby makes that FG, we win easily. And we'd beat the refs AND the Superbowl Champs in their house.
I don't put this on the defense.
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14 years ago

Zero, they came into the fourth quarter down by double digits, after having scored zero points in the third quarter. Yes, they staged a comeback, and that's great, but it's very disturbing how many games the team has gone scoreless in the third quarter this year.

"nerdmann" wrote:



You shouldn't lose a game you score 36 points in. A top ranked defense shouldn't be giving up more than 17 points or so a game.

I sure won't be discrediting the effort of the offense picking up the slack that the defense was laying down by saying it was desperation mode bull. It's doing what has to be done to win the game!

With such a vastly depth vocab you possess, I would expect a better word choice than 'desperation'. I simply disagree with that. I think it was the team doing what it had to do to position themselves to win.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:




The defense played balls out. If the WRs catch those balls, and Crosby makes that FG, we win easily. And we'd beat the refs AND the Superbowl Champs in their house.
I don't put this on the defense.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:

How can you not put this on the defense?
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

The defense played balls out. If the WRs catch those balls, and Crosby makes that FG, we win easily. And we'd beat the refs AND the Superbowl Champs in their house.
I don't put this on the defense.

"nerdmann" wrote:



You don't put this on the defense because you want to stir the pot. Damn, this route is getting overplayed by so many lately. "Look at me, I'm different!".

Balls out is NOT giving up over 500 yards passing.
Balls out is NOT giving up 37 points.
Balls out IS stopping a team with 2:06 left, and our defense failed to do that.
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porky88
14 years ago
I give the front seven credit, but the secondary was terrible. Way to many Steeler receivers running wide open.

The offense scored 36 points. I don't care how or when they do it, that's enough to win in the NFL. More than enough.
Zero2Cool
14 years ago
I was thinking the WR were getting open because Ben kept extending the play.
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zombieslayer
14 years ago
No. It wasn't Ben extending the play. It was Dom Capers being a freaking idiot and rushing 3 people. Even with that poor excuse for an OL, the 3 people rushing gave Ben 5+ seconds. With Al Harris out, ANY of the top 15 QBs will find an open WR with 5+ seconds.

The thing that irks me the most (besides losing) is it completely wasted Aaron's spectacular effort. Now everything Aaron did in this game is just a footnote.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago

Big Ben exploited the Packers' weakness

The Steelers may have exposed a huge weakness in the Packers' defense by relentlessly attacking the middle of the field in the passing game. Ben Roethlisberger frequently targeted Hines Ward, Heath Miller and Rashard Mendenhall on an assortment of short crossers and option routes between the hashes. With the Packers intent on dialing up pressure with their linebackers and safeties, the increased use of crossing routes allowed Roethlisberger to get the ball to his playmakers while they were on the move. Roethlisberger also mixed in a few deep shots to keep the Packers from clamping down on the short routes.

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In response to what Zero2Cool said, I do blame the defense primarily for this victory. Giving up in excess of 500 yards represents a monumental collapse. I don't blame the offense. Aaron Rodgers threw for three touchdowns and ran for another -- what more can you ask of the guy? But that doesn't mean I'm not going to be perplexed and concerned by our team's continual lack of production in the third quarter. As IronMan pointed out in another thread, the only game in which the Packers scored a significant number of points (17) in the third quarter was the second Vikings game, in which they entered that quarter down by three scores. I don't know who or what to blame for that, but responsibility ultimately does rest with Mike McCarthy.
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