nerdmann
4 months ago
Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

This doesn't make much sense because, well, the facts disprove it. The only two teams that offered to trade for Brett Favre were the Jets and Buccaneers. In fact, Favre and his agent believed the deal was as good as done. Ted Thompson refused to get into any negotiations with Vikings, Bears or Lions. 

This was 15 years ago, so I forgive you for not being able to recall correctly. Receiving my forgiveness will make you sleep better at night. You're welcome. 😁😋😍

 



Agreed.




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Blitz
4 months ago
One hint could be his subtle use of the difference between: 
Maybe my last post game interview?  = " I would miss..."   
Knowing it's last post game interview  = " I'm going to miss..."

Coupled with the sudden exit as he starts to show emotion.




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Blitz
4 months ago
I've found out here on this forum that I am not as knowledgeable at team construction as I would like to think I am.
I think I am entitled to one dumb question, so here goes:
A financial/tactical question I have is - Play Love & keep Rodgers as back-up QB?
"... There.. is.. your.. dagger..!! "
go.pack.go.
4 months ago
Originally Posted by: Blitz 

I've found out here on this forum that I am not as knowledgeable at team construction as I would like to think I am.
I think I am entitled to one dumb question, so here goes:
A financial/tactical question I have is - Play Love & keep Rodgers as back-up QB?



No way this would happen. Rodgers isn’t going to come back the be a backup. And the Packers aren’t paying that salary for a backup either. Out of all scenarios, this is the least likely, as in 0%. 

I understand your thought process though. It just won’t happen.
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nerdmann
4 months ago
Wow man. Is Spoon confirming that the Packers gave up all there leverage to Aaron, such that now Aaron has all the leverage over them? Does anyone have access to this article? 

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Blitz
4 months ago
Suppose he takes a pay cut?
Wants to "retire", but stay with the Packers?
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nerdmann
4 months ago
Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 

No way this would happen. Rodgers isn’t going to come back the be a backup. And the Packers aren’t paying that salary for a backup either. Out of all scenarios, this is the least likely, as in 0%. 

I understand your thought process though. It just won’t happen.



Aaron is afraid of open competition at his position. We've all seen him in the playoffs and in must-win games, like the last one against Detroit.
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Zero2Cool
4 months ago
Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

Wow man. Is Spoon confirming that the Packers gave up all there leverage to Aaron, such that now Aaron has all the leverage over them? Does anyone have access to this article? 


I believe we all knew the leverage was all Packers until they offered that contract. Now the leverage is in Aaron Rodgers hands. Rodgers said he won't hold the team hostage, so we just have to wait and see.  I suspect he'll announce he's playing in 2023 in the coming weeks and if not, then he'll state his plans days or a week prior to free agency. The Packers are fine. They can't do anything right now anyway. But sure has to suck formulating two different plans. One with Rodgers, one without Rodgers.
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go.pack.go.
4 months ago
Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

I believe we all knew the leverage was all Packers until they offered that contract. Now the leverage is in Aaron Rodgers hands. Rodgers said he won't hold the team hostage, so we just have to wait and see.  I suspect he'll announce he's playing in 2023 in the coming weeks and if not, then he'll state his plans days or a week prior to free agency. The Packers are fine. They can't do anything right now anyway. But sure has to suck formulating two different plans. One with Rodgers, one without Rodgers.



Im sure it really sucks for Jordan Love. Unless he has some inside information that we don’t know about.
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Zero2Cool
4 months ago
Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 

Im sure it really sucks for Jordan Love. Unless he has some inside information that we don’t know about.



I have no information to go on here. However, I just don't think we will have both Aaron Rodgers and Jordan Love on the 2023 Packers. 
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nerdmann
4 months ago
Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

I believe we all knew the leverage was all Packers until they offered that contract. Now the leverage is in Aaron Rodgers hands. Rodgers said he won't hold the team hostage, so we just have to wait and see.  I suspect he'll announce he's playing in 2023 in the coming weeks and if not, then he'll state his plans days or a week prior to free agency. The Packers are fine. They can't do anything right now anyway. But sure has to suck formulating two different plans. One with Rodgers, one without Rodgers.



Remember when we had a GM with balls who was able to stand up to players who demanded full control over the franchise? 

In fairness, Aaron did have three years to prepare whereas the new guy had two, with one being the covid year, thus barely any training camp. But still. 

Talk about selling the franchise's soul. There better be more to this story.
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Zero2Cool
4 months ago
Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

Remember when we had a GM with balls who was able to stand up to players who demanded full control over the franchise? 

In fairness, Aaron did have three years to prepare whereas the new guy had two, with one being the covid year, thus barely any training camp. But still. 

Talk about selling the franchise's soul. There better be more to this story.



That is one thing I admired about the Ron Wolf years. He had that confidence to say "I'll accept the job providing I have full control over football operations", and to his credit, Bob Harlan said the right answer. I say to his credit because previously the board of CEO dweebs kept their fingers in football business and instead of sticking to the business of football.

My hope is once Mark Murphy is replaced, the new CEO knows his role and stays the F out of football affairs. I know other organizations succeed with this everyone report to CEO/President but I just think it's cleaner for us to have everyone pointing to the GM.

I think Russ Ball and Matt LaFleur should be reporting to Brian Gutekunst rather than all three of them reporting to a CEO. 

I also think if Brian Gutekunst was in full control, the whole Rodgers thing would be easier to predict.  Right now we're not sure if Murphy pulling strings or what. 
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yooperfan
4 months ago
Mark Murphy has to go!
It's going to be hard for me to hang on for another two years with him at the helm.
Although I'm quickly losing faith in LeFleur as well.
At the age of75 I don't have many years left to enjoy my beloved Packers..
I would enjoy these last few years a lot more if Murphy and Rodgers were gone.
nerdmann
4 months ago
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Zero2Cool
4 months ago
Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

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This is bogusly spoken out of context. Rodgers also stated that there's only one or two teams that are actually rebuilding and he cited the Texans as one. And post-game vs Lions he said the Packers are a couple players away. Why don't people take the time to actually listen to the whole thing instead of taking clickbait BS snippets for attention? GBP Daily is dead to me now. They do it way too much.
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nerdmann
4 months ago
Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

This is bogusly spoken out of context. Rodgers also stated that there's only one or two teams that are actually rebuilding and he cited the Texans as one. And post-game vs Lions he said the Packers are a couple players away. Why don't people take the time to actually listen to the whole thing instead of taking clickbait BS snippets for attention? GBP Daily is dead to me now. They do it way too much.



The way I look at it, Gutey has his "out."
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Zero2Cool
4 months ago
Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

The way I look at it, Gutey has his "out."


I think you're right. 

And as for contract. I just feel there must be language in it that bails the Packers out somehow. 
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Pugger
4 months ago
Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

This is bogusly spoken out of context. Rodgers also stated that there's only one or two teams that are actually rebuilding and he cited the Texans as one. And post-game vs Lions he said the Packers are a couple players away. Why don't people take the time to actually listen to the whole thing instead of taking clickbait BS snippets for attention? GBP Daily is dead to me now. They do it way too much.



So does the NBC ProFootball Talk website.  😒

I don't blame Aaron Rodgers for not wanting to be a part of a rebuild at this point in his career.  And I don't begrudge him for taking a few weeks to decide either.  I think this gesture by Gute is fine.  No trades can be made before March anyway.
Zero2Cool
4 months ago
Originally Posted by: Pugger 

So does the NBC ProFootball Talk website.  😒

I don't blame Aaron Rodgers for not wanting to be a part of a rebuild at this point in his career.  And I don't begrudge him for taking a few weeks to decide either.  I think this gesture by Gute is fine.  No trades can be made before March anyway.



A lot of athletes have come out and said if you ask them within the first month of the end of the season about retiring that most would lean towards retiring. Not because they don't want to keep playing, but because they are still sore and exhausted and the thought about going through that again is daunting when you're in your 30's.  The Packers Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy acknowledged their mistake in rushing Brett. But they also said they rushed him to a decision because they knew he'd return. Ha, joke was on them!
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nerdmann
4 months ago
Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

A lot of athletes have come out and said if you ask them within the first month of the end of the season about retiring that most would lean towards retiring. Not because they don't want to keep playing, but because they are still sore and exhausted and the thought about going through that again is daunting when you're in your 30's.  The Packers Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy acknowledged their mistake in rushing Brett. But they also said they rushed him to a decision because they knew he'd return. Ha, joke was on them!



Yes, but it was the right decision to do that.. 
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
nerdmann
4 months ago



“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
nerdmann
4 months ago



“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
nerdmann
4 months ago
Maybe Gutey really does have a pair. 🤔




“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
dhazer
4 months ago
Why doesn't anyone ever want to listen to me as I have the perfect trade partner and that's the Seattle Seahawks. They have tons of cash, which maybe they can take on some of the cap hit plus a ton of extra picks. Also their QB is now a free agent and I don't think they don't want to pay Geno huge money for a few years. With them trading Wilson last year and made a draft pick haul they can just trade their own picks away if they wanted. Would Rodgers want to go there? Well his plus sides are  DK Metcalf, Tyler Lockette, and Kenneth Walker. Also the nice one is he could play the 49ers twice a year and maybe keep them out of the playoffs. I can see with his ego wanting to do that and like I said he would have tons of weapons and the GM and head coach would slobber all over him so they would bring in Cobb for him.  Rodgers will not be in Las Vegas that spot is already taken by the GOAT and who knows if Adams will actually be in Las Vegas next year, they did him wrong because he went there to be with Derek Carr and that was the only reason. He might force himself out maybe back to Green bay lol. Only other place I can see is the Jets but we know Rodgers can't play in the cold in big games and it's not warm in NY.  I say trade him to whoever will eat his contract and get whatever picks you can get and be done with it.
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4 months ago
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