nerdmann
a year ago

He's 39 years old and won MVP two of the last three years. He had thumb boo-boo. He had rookie WR's. He had rib injuries. And played through it all. If I'm his agent, that's what I'm saying, lol. 

A team that has a good to great defense and a serviceable to good running game. I could see them dropping a 1st rounder and another pick for him. And as I've made it clear. I think Packers have to love Aaron enough to let him go. It is time. Heck, I think a good portion of us thought after 2021 it was time. 

Then again, the Jets only gave the Packers a 4th rounder that morphed into 3rd rounder for Brett Favre after a 13-3 season. 

Honestly, as long as we get something for Aaron Rodgers, I am good. I wouldn't be happy if they just released him, but I'd get it and get over it. 

I still say if he wants to continue playing, you ask him what AFC team/s he wants to join and you start the trade talks. I just really feel it is time he goes one way, and Packers go another. This isn't disparaging Rodgers. SUPER THANKFUL for the many amazing years. I just really feel it is time. Let him go to another team with that chip on his shoulder that the Packers didn't want him. Let him light it up for a year and then retire. He's always going to be remembered as a Green Bay Packers player. No different than Paul Hornug, Jim Taylor, Curly Lambeau, Vince Lombardi, etc ...

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Who cares what we get. Get him off our books. The End.
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Zero2Cool
a year ago

Who cares what we get. Get him off our books. The End.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 


This is you, isn't it?

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=757143088033969 
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Pugger
a year ago

I find it hard to believe that AR12 has much trade value unless he is willing to:
adjust his salary to a more team friendly deal.
agrees to play for at least 3 more seasons.
shows that 2022 was the fluke and 2020-2021 is what he will look like in 2023.
he is healthy.
 

Originally Posted by: wpr 



What was wrong with Rodgers' play in 2021?
Pugger
a year ago

He's 39 years old and won MVP two of the last three years. He had thumb boo-boo. He had rookie WR's. He had rib injuries. And played through it all. If I'm his agent, that's what I'm saying, lol. 

A team that has a good to great defense and a serviceable to good running game. I could see them dropping a 1st rounder and another pick for him. And as I've made it clear. I think Packers have to love Aaron enough to let him go. It is time. Heck, I think a good portion of us thought after 2021 it was time. 

Then again, the Jets only gave the Packers a 4th rounder that morphed into 3rd rounder for Brett Favre after a 13-3 season. 

Honestly, as long as we get something for Aaron Rodgers, I am good. I wouldn't be happy if they just released him, but I'd get it and get over it. 

I still say if he wants to continue playing, you ask him what AFC team/s he wants to join and you start the trade talks. I just really feel it is time he goes one way, and Packers go another. This isn't disparaging Rodgers. SUPER THANKFUL for the many amazing years. I just really feel it is time. Let him go to another team with that chip on his shoulder that the Packers didn't want him. Let him light it up for a year and then retire. He's always going to be remembered as a Green Bay Packers player. No different than Paul Hornug, Jim Taylor, Curly Lambeau, Vince Lombardi, etc ...

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



We aren't gonna just let him walk.  The cap ramifications would be severe plus it would be foolhardy to not get something for him in return.  My guess is he will return for one more season or retire (if he returns he'll probably call it quits after 2023).  Packers management might not be as eager to get rid of him as a lot of fans seem to be.
dfosterf
a year ago
No, he doesn't get cut or anything. He probably plays for us next year. Trading him would be preferable in the sense that the Packers are not only going to be paying him, but will probably be paying his back up around 20 million, if memory serves. When you look at the list of players we have to pay or lose, it becomes very depressing. It's early, but I'm personally leaning towards advocating towards minimizing the cap ramifications into 2024 and beyond. Putting together a contending team in 2023 does not look good. Not good. At. All. 
bboystyle
a year ago

The team that trades for him is on the hook for about $16 million dollars. Does that fact change your thoughts at all? It did for me.
 

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



i mean if they are desperate enough. I just chose the only two options available in order for Rodgers to leave. I dont think he will get traded IMO. he either plays again or pulls a Favre and retires and maybe come back or stays retired.. Who knows at this point.
Zero2Cool
a year ago

i mean if they are desperate enough. I just chose the only two options available in order for Rodgers to leave. I dont think he will get traded IMO. he either plays again or pulls a Favre and retires and maybe come back or stays retired.. Who knows at this point.

Originally Posted by: bboystyle 



I would bet money he does not unretire. He's spoken a lot about how difficult that was and has said a few times he wouldn't do that to someone because he's literally lived through it.
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Zero2Cool
a year ago
The new team would have a $15.79 million 2023 cap hit for Rodgers consisting of the $14.575 million of option proration bonus, his $1.165 million base salary and $50,000 workout bonus. 

 
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earthquake
a year ago

The new team would have a $15.79 million 2023 cap hit for Rodgers consisting of the $14.575 million of option proration bonus, his $1.165 million base salary and $50,000 workout bonus. 

 

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Honestly, $16m sounds doable for a guy like Rodgers. If there is a team out there looking for a chance to pull off a Peyton Manning/Tom Brady/Matt Stafford-esq twilight superbowl run, and they think Rodgers could be that guy, the cap hit is very reasonable. I'm not sure if Rodgers is that guy but I could see at least one team thinking he might be.

Some will point to the Russell Wilson trade as to why it's a terrible idea, but Rodgers is closer to a Peyton Manning type than Wilson imo.

If I'm the Packers and I can get 2 #1s or a 1, 2 & 3 for Rodgers this offseason I would do it. Obviously the market for this kind of trade was probably a little better last year. Or maybe it wasn't, and that's why he wasn't traded. Who knows.
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nerdmann
a year ago

Honestly, $16m sounds doable for a guy like Rodgers. If there is a team out there looking for a chance to pull off a Peyton Manning/Tom Brady/Matt Stafford-esq twilight superbowl run, and they think Rodgers could be that guy, the cap hit is very reasonable. I'm not sure if Rodgers is that guy but I could see at least one team thinking he might be.

Some will point to the Russell Wilson trade as to why it's a terrible idea, but Rodgers is closer to a Peyton Manning type than Wilson imo.

If I'm the Packers and I can get 2 #1s or a 1, 2 & 3 for Rodgers this offseason I would do it. Obviously the market for this kind of trade was probably a little better last year. Or maybe it wasn't, and that's why he wasn't traded. Who knows.

Originally Posted by: earthquake 



First get his contract off our books, second, get what you can. There are teams willing to overpay.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/01/12/woody-johnson-jets-are-ready-to-spend-big-if-theres-a-veteran-qb-we-need/ 
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