Zero2Cool
a year ago

I should have said guard, but admittedly am simply bolstering my argument in that Jenkins is our most versatile lineman, I love Runyan right where he is, I think Jenkins helps a right tackle more than Runyan would. It is one less switcheroo, playing guard is more of a phone booth than a driveway, so interchangeability left to right for him seems the most logical of the options. Dude is a pro bowl guard. We need help on the right, we run to the right, Jenkins belongs on the right. Right?

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



You're (potentially) weakening both Guards for zero net gain. You're not really appreciating how difficult it is moving from one side of the line to other. We already see Jenkins struggling on the right side. If Runyan struggles, then you use a TE to chip and plus that's Rodgers view so he can see it coming. You protect your blindside, period. I don't know if you're being obtuse, or facetious or what, but this isn't really complicated.

We know 69 can play LT.
We know 74 can play LG.
We know 71 can play C.

Make that solid because it protects the QB's blind side.

Runyan already played RG last season.
Nijman has played RT before (albeit in College).



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dfosterf
a year ago
Defenses don't necessarily attack the blind side if the right side is perceived as weak in pass defense. We got Bak on the left, and book on him is pretty much wall. I believe bak and Runyan make a great blindside protection pair, and I believe that Jenkins will shore up someone like Nijman on the right. Jenkins isn't much of a tackle though, I think we can agree on that. Moving one slot to the left seems the answer, trotting Nijman out to rt. That is hardly radical as far as Jenkins is concerned.
Zero2Cool
a year ago

Defenses don't necessarily attack the blind side if the right side is perceived as weak in pass defense. We got Bak on the left, and book on him is pretty much wall. I believe bak and Runyan make a great blindside protection pair, and I believe that Jenkins will shore up someone like Nijman on the right. Jenkins isn't much of a tackle though, I think we can agree on that. Moving one slot to the left seems the answer, trotting Nijman out to rt. That is hardly radical as far as Jenkins is concerned.

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I'm definitely in the boot of less shifting of players, the better. I just think Jenkins on right side is C grade but on left is A grade. I think the dropoff of moving someone like Runyan to the right side is going to be less impactful.

There is also that coach who said Yosh didn't do so hot at RT tackle so I dunno. I would just rather plug people in where we know they are stellar instead of continuing to put round pegs in square "holes".
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nerdmann
a year ago
We could also encourage the QB to get the ball out sooner, especially to the open guy.
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dfosterf
a year ago
Well, we all know they aren't going to do any of this until someone goes down with an injury, but it is something to bitch about on a Monday after a pretty hollow victory as victories go. I would definitely try either one of our lineups contrasted with what they (note "they"- see my post from a gazillion years ago regarding CORF, casting off reflected failure, vs BIRG, basking in reflected glory)
...are trotting out. I am of the firm belief that much of Aaron's failures to date can be traced directly to the right tackle position.
dfosterf
a year ago

We could also encourage the QB to get the ball out sooner, especially to the open guy.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 


I haven't looked so far this year, but he was down to 2.59 seconds average last year, fastest of his career. It looks about the same or better, but I could be wrong on that.

...but we'll go ahead and put it on the list of demands. 😆
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Zero2Cool
a year ago

Well, we all know they aren't going to do any of this until someone goes down with an injury, but it is something to bitch about on a Monday after a pretty hollow victory as victories go. I would definitely try either one of our lineups contrasted with what they (note "they"- see my post from a gazillion years ago regarding CORF, casting off reflected failure, vs BIRG, basking in reflected glory)
...are trotting out. I am of the firm belief that much of Aaron's failures to date can be traced directly to the right tackle position.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



I wasn't a fan of putting Jenkins on the right side. That said, he was facing a pretty damn good opponent so maybe that was it? Maybe he just needs more reps at RT? I think Bryan Bulaga is healthy. Jus. Sayin!!!
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dfosterf
a year ago
He'll ya. Where does Bulaga live these days? I think he's from Illinois. Since we don't have a corporate jet maybe we could charter zygi's to go get him.
nerdmann
a year ago

Well, we all know they aren't going to do any of this until someone goes down with an injury, but it is something to bitch about on a Monday after a pretty hollow victory as victories go. I would definitely try either one of our lineups contrasted with what they (note "they"- see my post from a gazillion years ago regarding CORF, casting off reflected failure, vs BIRG, basking in reflected glory)
...are trotting out. I am of the firm belief that much of Aaron's failures to date can be traced directly to the right tackle position.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 


I look at it as not running the offense, hitting the open guy. I believe it is FIXABLE. We need to fix it soon, so we can tell how good we are, whether we need to make an acquisition before the playoffs.

As for RT, Jenkins has been out for awhile and has not even been a year post surgery. He might struggle against really good defensive ends like this guy. He will also get better.
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beast
a year ago
Last week the plan seemed to be, one series Bakhtiari, then one series Nijman at LT for the Packers.

I've read the plan this week was supposed to be two series Bakhtiari, and one series Nijman... but Nijman was dealing with an illness and at halftime, Bakhtiari declared he's doing every series...

So I think they wanted to make sure Bakhtiari was good, before potentially moving Nijman. Now that Bakhtiari seems to be good, I expect them to look into their different options going forward.


I think the bottom line is Jenkins and Nijman are among our best 5 and we need to get them on the field... and Bakhtiari too, though his grades so far, wouldn't nessarily say it's as clear heads and shoulder he's better than others, but he's had some touch opponents his first two weeks back, and might soon look a hell lot better just from weaker opponents.
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