porky88
13 years ago
McCarthy is going to turn into Marty Schottenheimer when he has a lead. That's just the way he is. I don't like it, but that philosophy has won a lot of games for Marty Schottenheimer and it's won a lot of games for McCarthy too. For the record, I like Marty Schottenheimer, but his teams lacked a killer instinct. The Pack couldn't put the Lions away today and nearly loss because of this.

For all the posts pointing fingers at McCarthy, at least he corrects his mistakes. The penalties were fixed today. The special teams coverage unit was passable.

However, Dom Capers has not figured out how to stop stacked WR sets. Until he does, Green Bay will have a weakness that will put them in shootouts more often than not.

Although, maybe this is just a fluke chink in the zone blitz armor. Maybe it's the players. I tend to think it's a combination of everything. But this formation is what torched Green Bay against Arizona and Pittsburgh last season.

While that was happening, the offense was scoring what 80 points combined in those games. Just sayin'
Chutzpah515
13 years ago

McCarthy is going to turn into Marty Schottenheimer when he has a lead. That's just the way he is. I don't like it, but that philosophy has won a lot of games for Marty Schottenheimer and it's won a lot of games for McCarthy too. For the record, I like Marty Schottenheimer, but his teams lacked a killer instinct. The Pack couldn't put the Lions away today and nearly loss because of this.

For all the posts pointing fingers at McCarthy, at least he corrects his mistakes. The penalties were fixed today. The special teams coverage unit was passable.

However, Dom Capers has not figured out how to stop stacked WR sets. Until he does, Green Bay will have a weakness that will put them in shootouts more often than not.

Although, maybe this is just a fluke chink in the zone blitz armor. Maybe it's the players. I tend to think it's a combination of everything. But this formation is what torched Green Bay against Arizona and Pittsburgh last season.

While that was happening, the offense was scoring what 80 points combined in those games. Just sayin'

"porky88" wrote:



I totally agree with all of this, except the last part. The offense still needs to generate more continuity between drives and needs more general refinement, if they want to be a serious superbowl team. Injuries have started to take their toll on the defense, but they still hold their own.
UserPostedImage
K_Buz
  • K_Buz
  • Member Topic Starter
13 years ago
Your comparison to Schottenheimer is a good one and one that kinda validates my thinking. Schottenheimer is a good coach who has had talented teams, but hasn't won more than one game in the post season.
tonyagnese
13 years ago
The lack of a killer instinct does seem to be a slight problem as does the teams inability to play a complete football game.
blank
Chutzpah515
13 years ago
McCarthy is the NFC's Norv Turner. :horse:
UserPostedImage
13 years ago
I think I'm part of the club that says if you employ a coach long enough, he'll get a trophy for you. Of course, he has to provide some results in the meantime. I would never condone keeping someone around for the sake of consistency.

In short, I think we have a good coach in McCarthy and I believe he's got the tools to get one for us.
K_Buz
  • K_Buz
  • Member Topic Starter
13 years ago
But the tools you speak of, are they his tools or his players' talents? I believe he has the tools in the toolbox, but I'm questioning if he has the skills to use those tools to get the job done.
Chutzpah515
13 years ago

But the tools you speak of, are they his tools or his players' talents? I believe he has the tools in the toolbox, but I'm questioning if he has the skills to use those tools to get the job done.

"K_Buz" wrote:



Agreed. :danceme:
UserPostedImage
all_about_da_packers
13 years ago

I would never condone keeping someone around for the sake of consistency.

"arrowgargantuan" wrote:



Really?

You seem to imply the exact opposite in one of your previous posts. 
The NFL: Where Greg Jennings Happens.
zombieslayer
13 years ago
Just an FYI, Mike McCarthy did try to put them away. Rodgers threw a deep bomb to put the score at 35-23, but it was poorly underthrown and picked off. Had Rodgers had more on the ball and completed it, we would be saying "nice call, MM" and wouldn't be having this discussion right now.
My man Donald Driver
UserPostedImage
(thanks to Pack93z for the pic)
2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. 🇹🇹 🇲🇲 🇦🇷
Fan Shout
Mucky Tundra (31-May) : @AndyHermanNFL Sean Rhyan getting some reps at center in walkthroughs. They are rotating guys everywhere.
Mucky Tundra (31-May) : or that might have been an individual drill thing
Mucky Tundra (31-May) : that was from the 29th but I've seen other combs (including Rhyan@C)
Mucky Tundra (31-May) : @ByRyanWood Without Elgton Jenkins and Zach Tom, #Packers starting OL: Rasheed Walker, Jordan Morgan, Josh Myers, Sean Rhyan, Andre Dillard.
Martha Careful (31-May) : I have never seen an OTA, but who is lining up at LT and RG with starters? or is it all individual drills?
Zero2Cool (30-May) : Bears are the first team to be selected for Hard Knocks
dfosterf (29-May) : Andy Herman and his Pack a day podcast put up GB strengths yesterday. This morning he did weaknesses. They are both very good.
Zero2Cool (25-May) : Yes.
beast (24-May) : Does he say what it is?
Zero2Cool (22-May) : Christian Watson believes he has discovered the root cause his soft-tissue leg injuries
Zero2Cool (22-May) : Savage played last half of season with tear in rotator cuff
Zero2Cool (22-May) : SISSIES!!!!
Mucky Tundra (22-May) : Sounds like both Kraft and Tom were injuried before OTAs began
buckeyepackfan (22-May) : Not serious but waiting for strength and conditioning coach referwnces.
buckeyepackfan (22-May) : Tom and Kraft both injured(pectoral muscle),
Zero2Cool (20-May) : I feel similar about person and product/service.
beast (17-May) : Not sure why a players views reflect on GB... instead of simply on the player
Martha Careful (17-May) : I bet some of us have had 6+ mRNA jabs, a UKR flag on our walls, and still think Fauci has a thread of integrity
Zero2Cool (16-May) : From what I've read, it's all Jets , not us.
CanPackFan (16-May) : Will there ever be a time when Rodgers' whacko views will not reflect on GB? He is the past, thank god.
Zero2Cool (16-May) : Jan 4th gonna be rough with that start time lol
Zero2Cool (16-May) : Packers schedule listed. Boom.
buckeyepackfan (15-May) : Let the leaks begin. Colts @ Packers week 2, Vikings @ Packers week 4
Zero2Cool (14-May) : WR Marquez Valdes-Scantling to Bills
Zero2Cool (14-May) : Jets and Aaron Rodgers open up on Monday Night Football,
Zero2Cool (13-May) : $170 guaranteed. This might impact Jordan Love
Zero2Cool (13-May) : Lions are signing QB Jared Goff to a four-year, $212 million extension
Zero2Cool (13-May) : I know we moved on. That tidbit just makes me a touch happier.
Zero2Cool (13-May) : Sources spoke of many, many times last summer where Hackett called a play, then Rodgers changed it completely at the line
Martha Careful (10-May) : 1. this is true of all our linemen. 2. His run block is fine. 3. If all OL played like he has, we would win SB.
beast (10-May) : Meyers pass blocking is really good, his run blocking is really not.
Zero2Cool (9-May) : Packers have claimed DE Spencer Waege off of waivers from the 49ers and waived DT Rodney Mathews.
Zero2Cool (9-May) : And the OL protections seem to be good.
Zero2Cool (9-May) : I really don't know lol. I don't see him getting blown up.
Zero2Cool (9-May) : -3 buwahhhahaaha
Mucky Tundra (9-May) : 4th
Zero2Cool (9-May) : because he's 1st
Mucky Tundra (9-May) : Myers isn't even the 3rd best C on the roster atm
Martha Careful (9-May) : I am not sure I understand the Myers hate. He was consistently our third best lineman. RG and LT were worse.
beast (9-May) : Just saying I don't think moving Myers would help Myers.
beast (9-May) : Center is usually considered the easiest position physically if you can handle the snap stuff.
Mucky Tundra (8-May) : Bust it is then
Zero2Cool (8-May) : Context. Sounds like Myers won't be cross-trained. C or bust.
Mucky Tundra (8-May) : @BookOfEli_NFL Packers pass game coordinator, Jason Vrable said that Jayden Reed and Dontayvion Wicks shared a placed in Florida while train
Mucky Tundra (8-May) : For now...
Zero2Cool (8-May) : Packers go about evaluating their "best five," OL coach Luke Butkus makes on thing clear: "Josh Myers is our center."
beast (8-May) : Though I'm a bit surprised letting go of CBs, I thought we needed more not less
beast (8-May) : It was confusing with two DB Anthony Johnson anyways
Zero2Cool (8-May) : Packers actually had Ray Lewis on the phone.
Zero2Cool (8-May) : Packers wanted to draft Ray Lewis. Ravens stole him.
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 12:00 PM
Vikings
Saturday, Jan 4 @ 11:00 PM
BEARS
Recent Topics
16h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

17h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

17h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

31-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

31-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

31-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

29-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

29-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

29-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

29-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

28-May / Around The NFL / bboystyle

27-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

23-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

21-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Nonstopdrivel

20-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.