What is the Packers Identity?

beast
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8 days ago

Over and over this past season we heard that the Badgers' problem was simply that they had no identity. No one really explains what that means — though you can infer that it used to be run the ball and have a good defense (until they play the top spread teams at least). The Packers'...

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If feels strange saying this, but Packers are a run heavy team and asking the QB to be a game manager and not make mistakes.

On defense, it depends on what pieces they have to work with, as they seem to be adjusting a bit depending on whom is healthy. But as the article says, inverted cover-2, and cover-3 daring teams to test Xavier McKinney.

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hardrocker950
Member

7 days ago

Originally Posted by: beast

It's a thing of beauty seeing the Packers actually run the ball. It's something we have been wanting more of for YEARS - and to few people's surprise, it makes a big difference. I'm sure the defense appreciates these sustained drives too.

The defense has their highs and lows, but it hasn't been a much different approach than what we've seen in recent seasons. They seem to be willing to give up the underneath and over the middle passes, but take away the big plays outside the numbers. If the pass rush were more effective, this approach wouldn't be so frustrating. I will say though, the upgrade at safety has made a big difference in defending the big plays - which has been long overdue.

bboystyle
Member

7 days ago

For the first time in decades, our offense runs off of our RB Jacobs and i love it. One thing i said after Love came back was that Malik was suited for this offense more so than Love because he is a legit dual threat and adds to the running game. If Love were to get injured, i wouldnt be worried one bit.

With that said, Love is playing great football again and hopefully he doesnt make any boneheaded throws like earlier in the year.

Martha Careful
Member

6 days ago

What was the 49ers identity in their glory years?

I supposed one could argue it was the "West Coast" Offense, But IIRC, Roger Craig and Ricky Waters were 1000 yard rushers. They had great balanced receiving corps with Rice, Taylor, Owens, Dwight Clark and Brent Jones.

They had a good solid defense with some very good DB's

But I am not sure "West Coast Offense" is really an identity. I think they were just a good in a lot of balance, which made htem a great team.

I hope we have the same success, sans an identity.

Go Packers!!!!

wpr
Preferred Member

5 days ago

I don't care if the Packers have an identity other than the Raiders old mantra, "Just win baby".

If they win one week by throwing for 450 yards. Great.
If they win the following week by grinding the ball on the ground for 250 yards. Fantastic.
If they follow it up with a stifling defensive performance. Super.
If they win with heroic ST play such as blocking a FG attempt in the final seconds, Awesome.
If the game hinges on 4 takeaways that stop long long time consuming drives by the other team that should have led to scores, WHOOT!

It doesn't matter how they do it. Just do it. Every game, every opponent is going to be different. The time of day. The temp. The weather. The injuries. Home or away. It is never the same. Why limit them to some simplistic terminology? Let them be adaptive not predictive. That was one of the issues with McCarthy's teams in his last years in GB. Everyone knew what he wanted to do.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

5 days ago

What was the 49ers identity in their glory years?

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful

49ers offensive identity was short passing game where they would slant you to death. And if you started shading inside, they would pass it to the RB as their pseudo "running" game. The identity was heavy on yards after catch.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

5 days ago

If feels strange saying this, but Packers are a run heavy team and asking the QB to be a game manager and not make mistakes.

Originally Posted by: beast

I think this is a good recipe for success. Ground and pound. OL prefers to run block because they do the attacking where as pass blocking they are reacting to the attack. And if you keep your defense on the field, they are better rested, and if their defense is on the field they get tired.

And if you need a TD you got a helluva QB who can sling it to a handful of really good WR's and also a TE who is a monster.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

13 hours ago

This is important. In addition to these comments, Josh Jacobs said playoffs are main reason he's here. What if we missed playoffs last season, does Jacobs sign here? Championship football, that's our identity.

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beast (5h) : Sounds like no serious injuries from the Saints game and Jacobs and Watson should play in the Vikings game

packerfanoutwest (10h) : both games Watson missed, Packers won

Martha Careful (12h) : I hope all of you have a Merry Christmas!

Mucky Tundra (22h) : Oh I know about Jacobs, I just couldn't pass up an opportunity to mimic Zero lol

buckeyepackfan (22h) : Jacobs was just sat down, Watson re-injured that knee that kept him out 1 game earlier

buckeyepackfan (22h) : I needed .14 that's. .14 points for the whole 4th quarter to win and go to the SB. Lol

Mucky Tundra (22h) : Jacobs gonna be OK???

Zero2Cool (22h) : Watson gonna be OK???

packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : Inactives tonight for the Pack: Alexander- knee Bullard - ankle Williams - quad Walker -ankle Monk Heath

packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : No Jaire, but hopefully the front 7 destroys the line of scrimmage & forces Rattler into a few passes to McKinney.

packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?

bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.

bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?

bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network

beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th

beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.

bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno

beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?

packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I see what you did there Mucky

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : dammit. 3:25pm

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Packers Vikings flexed to 3:35pm

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : Upon receiving the news about Luke Musgrave, I immediately fell to the ground

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : Yeah baby!

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : LUKE MUSGRAVE PLAYING TONIGHT~!~~~~WOWHOAAOHAOAA yah

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.

beast (23-Dec) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.

packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : ok I stand corrected

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?

beast (23-Dec) : Saying no to the 6th lock.

beast (23-Dec) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.

beast (23-Dec) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games

beast (23-Dec) : This is not complex, just someone doesn't want to believe reality

beast (23-Dec) : We already have told you... if Packers lose all their games (they won't, but if they did), and Buccaneers and Falcons win all theirs

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I posted it in that Packers and 1 seed thread

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I literally just said it.

packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : show us a scenario where Pack don't get in? bet you can't

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