Porforis
14 years ago
Bottom line: He's got raw skill, but if we really want to make it to, and hopefully win the superbowl he's going to need to keep improving A LOT over the next 20 weeks or so. The Packers need him, and while I'm not going to count him out until he's got at LEAST a couple years under his belt, I see this as one of those seasons where you've got to play to win NOW. Driver's aging, Woodson and Al Harris are aging too and you never know when there'll be a season ending injury or a dramatic dropoff. Either we need one workable third stringer this year, or a workable first and second stringer in 2-3 years.

As much as I'm in favor of building your team around potential with a core of a few veterans, at some point you may need to decide to take a big gamble on a big FA signing to get that final piece of the puzzle inplace.
British
14 years ago

Bottom line: He's got raw skill, but if we really want to make it to, and hopefully win the superbowl he's going to need to keep improving A LOT over the next 20 weeks or so. The Packers need him, and while I'm not going to count him out until he's got at LEAST a couple years under his belt, I see this as one of those seasons where you've got to play to win NOW. Driver's aging, Woodson and Al Harris are aging too and you never know when there'll be a season ending injury or a dramatic dropoff. Either we need one workable third stringer this year, or a workable first and second stringer in 2-3 years.

As much as I'm in favor of building your team around potential with a core of a few veterans, at some point you may need to decide to take a big gamble on a big FA signing to get that final piece of the puzzle inplace.

"Porforis" wrote:



You raise a good point about the future at CB. Harris is old for a CB and we're yet to find out how he'll be when he returns from injury. Woodson may only have two years left in him. People say CBs take at least a couple of years to get up to speed in the NFL. Right now we have Tramon who will have to become a legitimate starter and a bunch of young guys who have looked mediocre at best. Lee is close to being cut, Underwood was overtaken by an UFA and Bush is Bush. Shields has potential, let's hope he can develop quickly. I certainly think we're going to need some corners in next year's Draft so they're ready to succeed Harris and Woodson.
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Since69
14 years ago

Yeah... he's so talented that he somehow flew under the radar of all 32 teams on draft day. Or maybe no one wanted corners this year... who knows?

"TOPackerFan" wrote:



You don't think him playing only one year of corner had something to do with that? Look, the kid is raw, but he's improved a ton since the beginning of camp and has a chance to be a player, IMO.

"Since69" wrote:



Of course it did. And I'm not saying he has no chance to be a player. He may wind up being a damned good corner - and (naturally) I hope he does. I'm just very uncomfortable with him as our nickel corner.

Whitt Jr. and Capers and McCarthy are all in a much better position to judge him than I am, but I just wish we had another, more experienced option there.
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Stevetarded
14 years ago

So when we are in nickel we will have a rookie cb and a rookie safety? If that happens I am picking up Kolb for fantasy week 1 lol

"dhazer" wrote:



So, how did that go for ya?
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nerdmann
14 years ago

So when we are in nickel we will have a rookie cb and a rookie safety? If that happens I am picking up Kolb for fantasy week 1 lol

"Stevetarded" wrote:



So, how did that go for ya?

"dhazer" wrote:





My man Shields is holding up well. Not to jinx him of course...
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Stevetarded
13 years ago
Obviously the guy wasn't ready for prime time.
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mi_keys
13 years ago

Obviously the guy wasn't ready for prime time.

"Stevetarded" wrote:



Clearly not, he got injured in the Super Bowl for fuck sake. He just can't cut it.
Born and bred a cheesehead
13 years ago
In all seriousness...I'd love to see a stat-chart of how many CB's thrust into the NFL after one career season playing the position and have done that well. Seriously, this has got to be one of the all-time stories at the position (unless he blows it next year, of course).

I agree with Twinkiegorilla.

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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

Obviously the guy wasn't ready for prime time.

"Stevetarded" wrote:

Probably why he couldn't play too much in the second half.
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13 years ago
I thought he had a subpar performance in the SB actually, but other than that he far exceeded all of my expectations. The NFCC game had to be one of the best postseason games by a rookie CB in NFL History, if not the best. Solid all season long. I'm excited to see him develop.
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