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Greg C.
14 years ago

It bugs me that Peyton Manning two years in a row had statistically inferior seasons to Aaron and Aaron didn't get the recognition. I'd love for Aaron to get his first (of several hopefully) MVPs.

Rodgers


2008 341  	536  	63.6  	4038  	28  	5.2  	13  	2.4  	71  	7.5
2009 350  	541  	64.7  	4434  	30  	5.5  	7  	1.3  	83  	8.2

Let's not forget he also ran in 9 TDs in the past 2 years.

Manning


2008 371  	555  	66.8  	4002  	27  	4.9  	12  	2.2  	75  	7.2
2009 393  	571  	68.8  	4500  	33  	5.8  	16  	2.8  	80  	7.9

Whereas besides Michael Vick, well, let's just say with REAL QBs, Aaron Rodgers is the best scrambler in the NFL, Manning had 1 whopping TD rushing in the past two seasons plus ran for -13 yards in 2009.

Yes, I know football does it differently than baseball. As much as I don't like baseball, they get their MVP thingie right. It should be the best player in the league.

As for our D, not too worried yet. Once everyone comes back from injury, you'll see a completely different D.

As for our STs, they worry me.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



The difference is that in baseball, stats tell you most of the story. In football, there are more things that don't show up in the stat sheet. Manning calls his own plays and he successfully managed an offense that had to break in two unknown young receivers at the same time. There are a lot of intangibles with him. He's earned his respect, and I think Rodgers will get there someday too, maybe even this year.
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bozz_2006
14 years ago

foxsports link And Rodgers said he spent the offseason pouring over film with Mike McCarthy
[click link above for more, non-Packer related stuff]

"Greg C." wrote:



Q: What exactly did they pour over the film?

"MassPackersFan" wrote:



Don't get the grammar police any more fuel for the fire!
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zombieslayer
14 years ago



The difference is that in baseball, stats tell you most of the story. In football, there are more things that don't show up in the stat sheet. Manning calls his own plays and he successfully managed an offense that had to break in two unknown young receivers at the same time. There are a lot of intangibles with him. He's earned his respect, and I think Rodgers will get there someday too, maybe even this year.

"Greg C." wrote:



On the flip side, the Colts as long as they've had Manning have made OL a priority. We've done a crappy job with our OL for Aaron's career so far. Best OL we've had was with Sherman.

(Of course not implying Sherman was better than we have now, just saying the OL was better).

Aaron took a lot of brutal hits last year. Heck, look at that very last hit he took in the Playoffs. Yet he still performed admirably.

Green and gold lenses aside, if we had the choice to trade Aaron for Peyton, money not an issue, I'd take Aaron. More mobility. With be around longer.

If you have a coach who calls pretty good plays, the QB doesn't need to call them. I'm fine with Mike McCarthy calling the plays in GB but wish we'd be even more aggressive.

Peyton calls pretty good plays in Indy. I'll give him that. In Minnesota, I really think Favre should be calling the plays. Apples and oranges though. We're in a time when coaches, not quarterbacks, call the plays. Back in the days, Bart Starr and Terry Bradshaw were probably the majority. QB used to have the highest IQ on the field. Nowadays, it's the OT.
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Dulak
14 years ago

I've heard Bing Crosby is available.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



and I heard that even better yet you could get 3 for 1 - crosby stills and nash
(you guys started it)
IronMan
14 years ago

Sure, Al Harris is hurt. So is Atari Bigby. Pro Bowler Aaron Kampman is no longer in Green Bay, though he clearly wasnt a fit in Capers system. Johnny Jolly is suspended for the year. But this team now fully comprehends what the coordinator wants.


Show me on the field.
wamj2008
14 years ago
Denise Crosby has been looking for work since The Next Generation went off the air.
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PackerTraxx
14 years ago
There are a few excellant ST coaches, a number of good ones and mostly average ones. There are few bad ones - how does GB keep finding them?
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