RajiRoar
14 years ago
he says until Rodgers beats Favre, Favre is the better QB......

I really cant believe how NFLN and ESPN just worship him at every chance, ya can't watch any Packer-related videos without some retard yelling "BRETT FARV!!"

we better put Rodgers at OLB next year and end this debate.

MintBaconDrivel
Dec, 11, 2012 - FOREVER!
bozz_2006
14 years ago
I can't argue with that assessment, football being an individual one-on-one contest...
UserPostedImage
porky88
14 years ago
Dukes played with Favre and definitely admires the way he plays the game. No question about it, so there is a bias there. Also, he favors veterans over young guys. That's just a philosophy he has. He ranks Donovan McNabb ahead of Aaron Rodgers and Phillip Rivers.

With that said, he has a point. Favre was amazing last year. No question about it. I'm not so sure that I wouldn't take Brett Favre if I had to win one regular season game tomorrow.

What I don't like is how people call it ridiculous to even make the comparisons. Favre is going to be 41 and there is no shame in going with a younger more mobile QB, who has thrown for over 4,000 yards in each of his two seasons as a starter. I would argue that the fact Favre is in the conversation at his age says more about his greatness than it does about what level Aaron Rodgers is on. Unfortunately, not to many people see it that way.
Zero2Cool
14 years ago
Even if it was a playoff game? lol
UserPostedImage
RaiderPride
14 years ago

Dukes played with Favre and definitely admires the way he plays the game. No question about it, so there is a bias there. Also, he favors veterans over young guys. That's just a philosophy he has. He ranks Donovan McNabb ahead of Aaron Rodgers and Phillip Rivers.

With that said, he has a point. Favre was amazing last year. No question about it. I'm not so sure that I wouldn't take Brett Favre if I had to win one regular season game tomorrow.

What I don't like is how people call it ridiculous to even make the comparisons. Favre is going to be 41 and there is no shame in going with a younger more mobile QB, who has thrown for over 4,000 yards in each of his two seasons as a starter. I would argue that the fact Favre is in the conversation at his age says more about his greatness than it does about what level Aaron Rodgers is on. Unfortunately, not to many people see it that way.

"porky88" wrote:




This may be the most perfect, and well thought out post I have seen here in a while on this subject Well done... You gave me a fresh perspective.

Thank You for that.
""People Will Probably Never Remember What You Said, And May Never Remember What You Did. However, People Will Always Remember How You Made Them Feel."
Greg C.
14 years ago
Rodgers played very well in both of those games against the Vikings last year, but Favre played even better, and the Vikings won both games. So the guy's not totally off-base.

The real difference in those games was the pass rush, though. Neither game had the feel of a QB duel because Rodgers had a lot less time to throw the ball than Favre did.
blank
dfosterf
14 years ago
I enjoyed the segment, but Dukes is very biased, plus the rationale is overly simplistic.

Aaron Rodgers didn't have the level of a backfield threat and appurtenant defensive "scheme" that opponents would have to employ that Brett enjoyed. Don't even get me started on the offensive line...

The question was, "Right now."

Brett is throwing to high school kids, plus he's 14 lbs over-weight. Aaron Rodgers is (so far, two years running) more consistent than Brett--maybe we are the only ones that really know this, but we darn sure do...

As great as Brett was last year, and as great a career as he has had, we have completely lucked out and actually got someone better to replace him.

Better.

Actually, the best.

Ever.

So far.

It's in the record books now, his first two years as a starter... No other QB has ever done what he did in those first two years...

Ever.

I'm not calling Brett's performance an aberration last year, but I'm not "not" calling it one, either. Aaron LOOKS like he is SO consistent, "consistently".

I think all fellow Packer/Favre/Rodgers fans understand that semi-whacky statement. As many know, I go with my, "How many cigs do I smoke" analysis when comparing the two...

Favre is a two-packer, Rodgers I can get by on one, so therefore, he's twice as consistent.

:tongue3:

(btw-The '96 Packers segment on NFLN was awesome last night)
Wade
  • Wade
  • Veteran Member
14 years ago
I'm not sure why, but when I watched him occasionally via videos at NFL.com, Dukes struck me as one of the better talking heads out there. Probably my OL bias (I also like Ross Tucker).

Not to mention the alternatives against which he is compared are typically so very, very bad, that anything remotely articulate seems good by comparison.

As to the substantive point. I would rather have Rodgers right now than Favre. In fact I can't think of a quarterback I'd rather have than Rodgers, save perhaps Bart Starr c. 1965. Not Favre. Not Brady. Not Brees. Not M*nning.

I think this is part of the reason I continue to be so damn unreasonable about the OL. I think about what Rodgers would do with a topflight line, instead of one I considered servicable at best at the end of last year, and it almost makes me drool. And I worry that, because of that line, there's too high a likelihood of that one low hit or cheap shot (can you say "New Orleans"?) away from the quarterback equivalent of Eddie Lee Ivery or Gale Sayers.

We Packer fans are so spoiled from the F*vre years of never missing a game. We forget that the early years of the "streak" were enabled in part by a Vicodin addiction. That the years of Favre's career did not all take place behind a dominant line, and that without his freakish durability, we would have had to make do without him more than once.

I think Rodgers has something that could make him the greatest quarterback ever. But not if he's on the sideline in street clothes.
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
wamj2008
14 years ago
I think you have to compare the supporting casts, and also take into effect that Favre played at least 9 games in a dome last year. Rodgers proved he was money in the Pittsburgh game and AZ playoff game. No one can question his "clutch" anymore.

I ask myself... who is less likely to throw a game-ending interception? No brainer there.
blank
14 years ago
jamie dukes is an asstard. 'nuff said.

I agree with Twinkiegorilla.

bozz_2006 wrote:


Fan Shout
beast (5h) : Speaking of Woodson, sounds like he'll be a minority owner (0.1%) of the Browns
Mucky Tundra (15-May) : Zero, regarding Woodson, that'd why I find the timing with Williams peculiar
dfosterf (15-May) : Ryan Hall y'all does a great job of tracking thesr
Zero2Cool (15-May) : Fear not!! I planned to do 33mi bike ride tomorrow morning, so ... yeah
Zero2Cool (15-May) : We got some dark clouds and nasty winds right bout now.
Zero2Cool (15-May) : Madison they had hail 4pm.
dfosterf (15-May) : Sure looks like these tornadoes are headed towards Green Bay
Zero2Cool (15-May) : Woodson of Charles fame was reluctant and then loved it. that didn't really come out until post career
Mucky Tundra (15-May) : IE "We bought into the Bears and they let us down, we have no choice to seek alternatives"
Mucky Tundra (15-May) : Or that Williams and his family are preparing an exit ramp if they don't like how things are going in a few years
Mucky Tundra (15-May) : Either Williams thought it would make him look good (reluctant but then embraces the city and franchise)
Mucky Tundra (15-May) : I can only assume that the Williams camp agreed to cooperate with that article tells me 2 things
dfosterf (15-May) : Ya. They are in a great mood
Zero2Cool (15-May) : I should visit again
dfosterf (15-May) : ChiCity Sports entering freakout mode due to Caleb and his dad not wanting him to go there
Zero2Cool (15-May) : "He's looking really good out there," Derrick Ansley said of Kalen King. Adds that he's been playing inside and out.
Zero2Cool (15-May) : Him saying he doesn't have one to give haha
Zero2Cool (15-May) : True, that was awesome. The whole F thing was great actually.
dfosterf (15-May) : I did like the Mark Murphy part, sorta
Zero2Cool (15-May) : Some comments on it saying it was great, amazing... I came away thinking... awkward.
dfosterf (15-May) : Packers schedule release video is "interesting" I guess.
Zero2Cool (15-May) : SOOO glad that tool still works. Saves from manually entering each game
Zero2Cool (15-May) : NFL Pick'em import was done last night.
Mucky Tundra (15-May) : Atlanta with 5 primetime games lol
Zero2Cool (15-May) : Week Five BYE?? NFL is hell.
wpr (14-May) : Vikings schedule leaked. Week 12 in GB. Week 18 in MN.
wpr (14-May) : CBS has GB @ NYG Week 11 Nov 16 and they will face MN in week 18 but don't say where. I think away
Zero2Cool (14-May) : W15: Packers at Broncos
Zero2Cool (14-May) : Ben Sirmans on MarShawn Lloyd: “Everything’s full go for him.”
Zero2Cool (14-May) : Luke Butkus says training camp will allow plenty of time to implement new center Elgton Jenkins
Zero2Cool (14-May) : wk 2 commanders at packers
Zero2Cool (14-May) : Ugh. Packers thanksgiving detroit ...boring
Zero2Cool (14-May) : Panthers at Green Bay in week 9, Nov 2nd
buckeyepackfan (14-May) : Week 1
buckeyepackfan (14-May) : Packers Host Detroit Week 1! ML finally gets a week home opener.
beast (13-May) : I was kind of hoping Douglas might come back to the Pack
beast (13-May) : My question is how much do we trust Jenkins? In bad weather, he seemed to struggle a bit with ball control snapping, though he started at OG
beast (13-May) : Well Jenkins probably knows he's not getting that 2026 salary number without a new contact... so just trying to get the new contact early
Zero2Cool (13-May) : CB Rasul Douglas is visiting the #Seahawks today, per source.
dfosterf (13-May) : He's a switch and baiter. Its the same as a bait and switcher except he agreed to the switch first lol
dfosterf (13-May) : 6.8 mil raise next year. Those are existing contract numbers
dfosterf (13-May) : 12.8 plus 4.8 pro rata signing bonus is 17.6 mil. Top center in the league at 18
Zero2Cool (13-May) : Elgton Jenkins wants to rework contract ahead of position change to center
Zero2Cool (13-May) : 🏈Monday, Nov. 10: Eagles at Packers
buckeyepackfan (12-May) : Packers @ Bears week 16(Saturday Game)
Zero2Cool (12-May) : Clifford hasn't been the same since losing 8
dfosterf (12-May) : Sean Clifford would probably disagree
dfosterf (12-May) : Canuck Cannon. Got a very good feeling about this
Zero2Cool (12-May) : Tom Pelissero also reports what bboy stated
bboystyle (12-May) : The Green Bay Packers on Monday signed Taylor Elgersma, the Canadian-born quarterback who tried out at the team’s rookie camp last weekend
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2025 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM
COMMANDERS
Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM
Browns
Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM
Cowboys
Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM
BENGALS
Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM
Cardinals
Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM
PANTHERS
Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM
EAGLES
Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM
Giants
Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM
Bears
Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM
RAVENS
Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM
Vikings
Recent Topics
2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

20h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

16-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

15-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

15-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

15-May / Random Babble / Martha Careful

15-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

15-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

14-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

13-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / nyrpack

13-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

13-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

13-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

13-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

13-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.