Pack93z
14 years ago
My conservative statement is more in the line of playing it safe and settling for a field goal before a half than trying to grab the other team by the nads and punching in a TD before the half.
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warhawk
14 years ago

I think most of it is the timing of his misses.. either crucial points of the game.. or when the coach made a decision towards being conservative in nature and placing his confidence in Crosby.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



This past season, he was 13 of 13 from 20-29. That bothers me a bit.

13 times we on the 13 or closer to the goal line and couldn't punch it in?

"pack93z" wrote:



The question is how many times were they inside the 13 total and how does that stack up against the rest of the league? One thing we know is that Rodgers doesn't give it up hardly ever inside the redzone and our RB's seldom fumble.

My guess is we probably do pretty well in this catagory overall. 13 might sound high but I think our TD to FG ratio down there probably stands up against the other teams.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

I think most of it is the timing of his misses.. either crucial points of the game.. or when the coach made a decision towards being conservative in nature and placing his confidence in Crosby.

"warhawk" wrote:



This past season, he was 13 of 13 from 20-29. That bothers me a bit.

13 times we on the 13 or closer to the goal line and couldn't punch it in?

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



The question is how many times were they inside the 13 total and how does that stack up against the rest of the league? One thing we know is that Rodgers doesn't give it up hardly ever inside the redzone and our RB's seldom fumble.

My guess is we probably do pretty well in this catagory overall. 13 might sound high but I think our TD to FG ratio down there probably stands up against the other teams.

"pack93z" wrote:



Only two kickers attempted more field goals from 20-29.
UserPostedImage
14 years ago

I think most of it is the timing of his misses.. either crucial points of the game.. or when the coach made a decision towards being conservative in nature and placing his confidence in Crosby.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



This past season, he was 13 of 13 from 20-29. That bothers me a bit.

13 times we on the 13 or closer to the goal line and couldn't punch it in?

"warhawk" wrote:



The question is how many times were they inside the 13 total and how does that stack up against the rest of the league? One thing we know is that Rodgers doesn't give it up hardly ever inside the redzone and our RB's seldom fumble.

My guess is we probably do pretty well in this catagory overall. 13 might sound high but I think our TD to FG ratio down there probably stands up against the other teams.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Only two kickers attempted more field goals from 20-29.

"pack93z" wrote:



You'd have to do it by percentage for it to really mean anything, otherwise it might just be part of being one of the most productive offenses and scoring both more TDs and more short FGs than most teams.
14 years ago

trying to grab the other team by the nads and punching

"pack93z" wrote:



I think that would be a personal foul.
zombieslayer
14 years ago

For all the complaints about Crosby, he has the 3rd highest Packer career FG% since they moved the goalposts in 1974, behind Jan Stenerud and Ryan Longwell. Even after his down season, he's only 4 kicks off of Longwell's Packer average right now, and he's still ahead of Chris Jacke.

I think he'll be fine.

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djcubez
14 years ago

I think most of it is the timing of his misses.. either crucial points of the game.. or when the coach made a decision towards being conservative in nature and placing his confidence in Crosby.

"pack93z" wrote:



I agree almost completely with this statement. The guy is a damn good kicker, he's just had terrible timing with his missed kicks. That timing added with pressure from fans, players and coaches probably makes it exponentially worse after each one he misses. I think Crosby just needs a clean slate in the form of a new, fresh season. Here's hoping!
PackerTraxx
14 years ago
One of the things that I think did NOT help were the number of 50 yd or more field goals that were attempted and missed the first part of the season. It was like McCarthy sending Crosby in "hoping God would spot him 3". They should have been more aggressive to gain more yards rather than send Crosby in to try a 56 yarder as the half came to a close, as an example.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

For all the complaints about Crosby, he has the 3rd highest Packer career FG% since they moved the goalposts in 1974, behind Jan Stenerud and Ryan Longwell. Even after his down season, he's only 4 kicks off of Longwell's Packer average right now, and he's still ahead of Chris Jacke.

I think he'll be fine.

"get_louder_at_lambeau" wrote:




lol we've had what, 10 kickers since '74. That's not exactly something you want to use as a point in a debate for Mason Crosby.


Longwell was our best kicker, ever I'd say. Other than his '01 season (64.5%) he always had above 80%, sometimes in the mid to high 80's. In my opinion, that's where your kicker should be at.

No, Crosby is NOT as bad as some perceive him to be. I made this argument very well last season. However the second half of the season, it felt like he was missing them on a consistent basis. Always to the right or left, I forget which because I'd close my eyes when he'd kick. If you're on the right has and you blast it to the right, you step in toward the left has to compensate. I didn't see him trying to do that. I seen him kicking it the same exact way. After his foot made contact, I went eyes shut. 🙂
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68md
14 years ago
Combination of different holders( god knows that doesn't help) poor special teams coaching and plain old crap luck.
Is that an excuse for some of his chip shot wide right crap...no but I am willing to see what 2010 brings.
Put it through the upright Mason and it all goes away.
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