Zero2Cool
14 years ago
What are your thoughts about it? I just got done reading and article on CNET and some of their comments.

I used to feel for those who had their work stolen, and the financial loss. However, what about the other side of it? What if the downloader never intended on purchasing that CD, that movie, that software, etc in the first place? How many downloaders fall into that category, then end up purchasing said media because of it's quality?

It costs less than .25 to make a CD, that includes everything start to finish. How much does it cost us to purchase it? Something like $15 right?

The cost for a DVD is I'm the same range and costs in the same ballpark to make.

A Blu-Ray movie is twice the cost of a DVD and costs in the $20 range.

Going to a movie is atleast $8 bucks per ticket. A soda is $6, popcorn is $5.50 ... etc ...

As a software developer myself this may sound stupid, but even software is over priced.


I used to think 'man, if punks wouldnt pirate, things would be cheaper'. Then I look back, and realize it's always been priced outrageously.


I'd go to the movies, buy more CD's/DVD's/Blu-Ray's, and software if it was priced more reasonably for the average person.

What's your thoughts on this? There's so many angles that I can't even comprehend.
UserPostedImage
TheEngineer
14 years ago
It was never about the physical good, but about the licence to view or personally use the intellectual property contained on the DVD. This is why to purchase a blank CD they're something like $10 for a 50 pack.

The issue I have against games/CDs/DVDs/whatever electronic medium is that the bucks mostly go to the publishers, which I think is wrong. Especially with viral marketing, half of the anticipation is caused outside of the marketing and advertising department. I don't see why 80% or whatever proportion of what I'm paying should go to those people. If it wasn't for the fact that publishers fund developers to produce games, I'd rather pay a developer outright, usually for a much cheaper price, and obtain a digital copy that way.

Though currently unless I really want a product, I just wait till it's on sale, rather than pirate it.
blank
Formo
14 years ago
I can understand why someone would want to 'pirate' the products.. if they wanted it for their personal use. The moment they reproduce and sell it is the moment I am staunchly against it.

But, I try to 'play the game' as legal as I can. Last thing I need on my head is having my virtual data being deleted or whatever because I pirated some movies and songs.
UserPostedImage
Thanks to TheViking88 for the sig!!
Zero2Cool
14 years ago

I can understand why someone would want to 'pirate' the products.. if they wanted it for their personal use. The moment they reproduce and sell it is the moment I am staunchly against it.

But, I try to 'play the game' as legal as I can. Last thing I need on my head is having my virtual data being deleted or whatever because I pirated some movies and songs.

"Formo" wrote:



Yes, that's worse than those pricks who take open source code, change some routines and compile it as their own for profit.
UserPostedImage
Cheesey
14 years ago
I especially like the eye patch they wear. And the parrot on the shoulder is a nice touch.

(sorry.....couldn't resist!!!)LOLOL!!!

Are they overpriced? yes. But the ones that make money often have to make up for the ones that bomb. (Daredevil, Gigly, or whatever the heck it was named)
Same with music. What i don't like is having to pay $15 for a CD, when you only like one song on it.
So, yes, it's wrong to "steal" the works of others. But i do see why some do it. And selling it when you stole it? That's wrong ALL the time.
UserPostedImage
Dulak
14 years ago
one of the 'funniest' things I have read on piracy was when the movie companies decided to compete with all the piracy in china decided to sell legit dvds (ie just like we get in the states) to the chinese for 1$. <<< to compete with all the pirates selling their goods.

interesting policy huh ... mean while they prosecute 35 year old housewives for 35k for downloading some music or movie etc ... (in the states)
all_about_da_packers
14 years ago
This is a topic with the potential for excellent discussion.

For now, I'll reply by saying it would seem not too many people are familiar with the concept of creative commons (cc).

Long-live Copy-Left!
The NFL: Where Greg Jennings Happens.
14 years ago
I think music is an art form and has been manipulated by producers working on a Capitalist system to milk as much money out of it as possible. It is vastly overpriced. "Piracy" is merely putting it back where it should be - an art form that can be appreciated.
UserPostedImage
Formo
14 years ago

I think music is an art form and has been manipulated by producers working on a Capitalist system to milk as much money out of it as possible. It is vastly overpriced. "Piracy" is merely putting it back where it should be - an art form that can be appreciated.

"MassPackersFan" wrote:



While I don't disagree with your comments, I will say if people are drones enough to buy whatever is produced and manufactored then the producers definitely earn their keep. Fact of reality is, artistic talented music isn't as marketable as the crap that's being produced now days.

Here's the kicker.. Just because it's crap, doesn't make it bad to sell. People buy it out of free will. Let 'em.

Me personally? I buy what I want. Not the whole CD. The joys of modern technology.
UserPostedImage
Thanks to TheViking88 for the sig!!
Zero2Cool
14 years ago

I think music is an art form and has been manipulated by producers working on a Capitalist system to milk as much money out of it as possible. It is vastly overpriced. "Piracy" is merely putting it back where it should be - an art form that can be appreciated.

"Formo" wrote:



While I don't disagree with your comments, I will say if people are drones enough to buy whatever is produced and manufactored then the producers definitely earn their keep. Fact of reality is, artistic talented music isn't as marketable as the crap that's being produced now days.

Here's the kicker.. Just because it's crap, doesn't make it bad to sell. People buy it out of free will. Let 'em.

Me personally? I buy what I want. Not the whole CD. The joys of modern technology.

"MassPackersFan" wrote:



The first part of this I agree with. The first band that comes to mind is AFI. Some of their older stuff was really awesome. Then they went 'mainstream' and it became all kind of kiddie pop or something.


The last part some would say you're failing to support your artist!!! You're terrible!!

Although, I agree. Why spend 15 bucks on a CD that has only one song you like and you can purchase that one song for a buck or two?
UserPostedImage
Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (8h) : Fake news. Cowboys say no
Zero2Cool (9h) : Mystery candidate in the Cowboys head coaching search believed to be Packers ST Coordinator Rich Bisaccia.
beast (23h) : Also why do both NYC teams have absolutely horrible OL for over a decade?
beast (23h) : I wonder why the Jets always hire defensive coaches to be head coach
Zero2Cool (22-Jan) : Still HC positions available out there. I wonder if Hafley pops up for one
Zero2Cool (22-Jan) : Trent Baalke is out as the Jaguars GM.
dfosterf (22-Jan) : Jeff Hafley would have been a better choice, fortunately they don't know that. Someone will figure that out next off season
Zero2Cool (22-Jan) : Aaron Glenn Planning To Take Jets HC Job
dfosterf (22-Jan) : Martha- C'est mon boulot! 😁
Zero2Cool (22-Jan) : Thank you
wpr (22-Jan) : Z, glad you are feeling better.
wpr (22-Jan) : My son and D-I-L work for UM. It's a way to pick on them.
Zero2Cool (22-Jan) : Thank you. I rarely get sick, and even more rarely sick to the point I can't work.
wpr (22-Jan) : Beast- back to yesterday, I CAN say OSU your have been Michigan IF the odds of making the playoffs were more urgent.
dfosterf (22-Jan) : Glad to hear you are feeling a bit better.
Zero2Cool (22-Jan) : I've been near death ill last several days, finally feel less dead and site issues.
Zero2Cool (22-Jan) : It is a big deal. This host is having issues. It's frustrating.
Martha Careful (22-Jan) : just kidding...it was down
Martha Careful (22-Jan) : you were blocked yesterday, due to a a recalcitrant demeanor yesterday in the penalty box for a recalcitrant demeanor
dfosterf (22-Jan) : Was that site shutdown on your end or mine? No big deal, just curious
beast (21-Jan) : That way teams like Indiana and SMU don't make the conference championships by simply avoiding all the other good teams in their own confere
beast (21-Jan) : Also, with these "Super Conferences" instead of a single conference champion, have 4 teams make a Conference playoffs.
beast (21-Jan) : Also in college football, is a bye week a good or bad thing?
Martha Careful (21-Jan) : The tournament format was fine. Seeding could use some work.
beast (21-Jan) : You can't assume Ohio State would of won the Michigan game...
beast (21-Jan) : Rankings were 1) Oregon 2) Georgia 3) Texas 4) Penn State 5) Notre Dame 6) Ohio State, none of the rest mattered
wpr (21-Jan) : Texas, ND and OSU would have been fighting for the final 2 slots.
wpr (21-Jan) : Oregon and Georgia were locks. Without the luxury of extra playoff berths, Ohios St would have been more focused on Michigan game.
wpr (21-Jan) : Zero, no. If there were only 4 teams Ohio State would have been one of them. Boise St and ASU would not have been selected.
Zero2Cool (21-Jan) : So that was 7 vs 8, that means in BCS they never would made it?
Martha Careful (21-Jan) : A great game. Give ND credit for coming back, although I am please with the outcome.
Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : FG to make it academic
Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : and there's the dagger
Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : ooooo 8 point game with 4 minutes to go!
Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : ooooooooohhhhhh he missed!
Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : Ooooo that completion makes things VERY interesting
Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : Game not over yet
beast (21-Jan) : Oh yeah, Georgia starting quarterback season ending elbow injury
beast (21-Jan) : Sadly something happened to Georgia... they should be playing in this game against Ohio State
beast (21-Jan) : I thought Ohio State and Texas were both better than Notre Dame & Penn State
Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : Notre Lame getting rolled
Martha Careful (21-Jan) : Ohio State just got punched in the gut. Lets see how they respond
Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : Notre Lame vs the Luckeyes, bleh
Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : Oh snap!!!
Zero2Cool (21-Jan) : Even Stevie Wonder can see that.
Zero2Cool (21-Jan) : Nah, you see Lions OC leaving to be HC of Bears is directly related to Packers.
Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : ohhhhhhh Zero is in TROUBLE
packerfanoutwest (21-Jan) : Zero, per your orders, check Bearshome, not packershome
Zero2Cool (20-Jan) : Then he'll land with another team and flourish.
Zero2Cool (20-Jan) : Ben going to Bears. He'll be out in 3 years.
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 12 @ 3:30 PM
Eagles
Recent Topics
22-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

22-Jan / Random Babble / packerfanoutwest

21-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

21-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

20-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

20-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

20-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

20-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

19-Jan / Random Babble / Martha Careful

18-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

17-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

17-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

17-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

16-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

16-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.