Pack93z
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14 years ago
Is a muff on a punt a fumble?
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Zero2Cool
14 years ago

Is a muff on a punt a fumble?

"pack93z" wrote:



Yes sir.
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IronMan
14 years ago

Is a muff on a punt a fumble?

"pack93z" wrote:

I thought it was, but this says other wise.  
Pack93z
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14 years ago

Is a muff on a punt a fumble?

"IronMan" wrote:

I thought it was, but this says other wise.  

"pack93z" wrote:



Exactly.. that was the point for the silly Viking Favre loving fan. 😉
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Zero2Cool
14 years ago
Color me baffled!

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4-10-GB 40 (13:27) 9-J.Ryan punts 39 yards to PHI 21, Center-60-R.Davis. 83-G.Lewis MUFFS catch, touched at PHI 21, RECOVERED by GB-59-T.White at PHI -8. TOUCHDOWN.



Greg Lewis was credited with one fumble and it was lost.
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IronMan
14 years ago
Where's Mike Pereira when you need him?
Rockmolder
14 years ago

Where's Mike Pereira when you need him?

"IronMan" wrote:



I got that covered for you.

There's a lot of variables when calling something a fumble and not. Our guys did the right thing. It was hard to see exactly what happend on both muffs. One looked a lot like a fumble and got credited as one. The other one didn't get chalked up as a fumble. Our guys are proffesionals, I called them last night to talk about this and we figured everything out. We'll be looking at this more closely from now on.
Zero2Cool
14 years ago

Where's Mike Pereira when you need him?

"IronMan" wrote:

lol


I'm lost on this one. I've always heard the muff punt being a fumble. That wiki page was the first I recall stating otherwise.

It goes down in the stat book as a fumble, but should that mean, it's a fumble?

My two braincells are sore ...
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Pack93z
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14 years ago

Where's Mike Pereira when you need him?

"Zero2Cool" wrote:

lol


I'm lost on this one. I've always heard the muff punt being a fumble. That wiki page was the first I recall stating otherwise.

It goes down in the stat book as a fumble, but should that mean, it's a fumble?

My two braincells are sore ...

"IronMan" wrote:



It comes down to if the returner establishes possession.. much like a legal catch. It is a technicality is all.. if the returner does establish possession clearly the ball never truly changes possession at all. However if he does.. it is a legal fumble or loss of possession.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Zero2Cool
14 years ago

Where's Mike Pereira when you need him?

"pack93z" wrote:

lol


I'm lost on this one. I've always heard the muff punt being a fumble. That wiki page was the first I recall stating otherwise.

It goes down in the stat book as a fumble, but should that mean, it's a fumble?

My two braincells are sore ...

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



It comes down to if the returner establishes possession.. much like a legal catch. It is a technicality is all.. if the returner does establish possession clearly the ball never truly changes possession at all. However if he does.. it is a legal fumble or loss of possession.

"IronMan" wrote:



But in the example I cited, the ball was not possessed, it was muffed, it even says that in the quote. And it was charted as a fumble. So the NFL has it's rule wrong, but Wiki has it right? That sounds ... odd to me.
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