all_about_da_packers
15 years ago

makes little sense, possible linebacker convert?

"voiceofreason" wrote:



Makes total sense if you look at the (decreasing) snaps Havner played as the year wore on.

We need a good blocker at TE. Havner may be a nice story, but honestly you can improve on him as your third TE.
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all_about_da_packers
15 years ago

WTF? I don't understand this one at all. On any level.

"Since69" wrote:



We needed to get better at TE, IMO.

Havner is, on his best day, a slightly below average blocker. There is a reason he got lesser snaps towards the end of the year.

We could stand to improve at the position. It may not be a need, but at this point in time taking a project makes total sense.

Seems like Quarless has some value as both a vertical threat and a blocker. Certainly a project, but Ted has been known to take projects in the fifth round in his career (Mike Hawkins, prime example).
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Chico12
15 years ago
LOL @ Jermichael Finley's reaction on Twitter.

"Tightend?!?!! :("

Rodgers replies to him:
"@JermichaelF88 just remember who pulls the trigger on Sunday big fella haha"
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Dulak
15 years ago
Who knows maybe we will use TEs more in our passing game - considering how well finleys missmatches go ...

to be honest as long as we get a decent LOLB ie either jones gets better or we get someone that is 1/2 as good as matthews there ...

then I really dont care whom else we draft.

I wish the best for all our draft picks ...
TengoJuego
15 years ago

makes little sense, possible linebacker convert?

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:



Makes total sense if you look at the (decreasing) snaps Havner played as the year wore on.

"voiceofreason" wrote:



IIRC, Havner played quite a bit. Especially when Finley was hurt. He played about as much as you'd expect a 3rd TE to play. So, not sure what you're trying to say.

I dont understand the pick right now. But maybe 6 months from now we all will. Is Havner receiving any punishment for his accident?
RainX
15 years ago
This is kind of a head scratcher in all honesty. Depth is always good, but TE wasn't really a major need with Havner and Lee being more than servicable. I don't know if this is an indictment of Havner and his off the field issues this Spring and/or Lee's decline in play, but meh, there will be competition in camp at TE.
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nerdmann
15 years ago
He'll replace Lee, not Havner. Unless they IR Havner. 2TE formation, baby! Looks like a Finley Mini-me.
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Mckennj3
15 years ago
Same thing I thought of, they might just be covering there asses if Havner gets suspended. What seemed like a solid position would turn paper thin with only Finley and Lee left on the roster.
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HoustonMatt
15 years ago

This is kind of a head scratcher in all honesty. Depth is always good, but TE wasn't really a major need with Havner and Lee being more than servicable. I don't know if this is an indictment of Havner and his off the field issues this Spring and/or Lee's decline in play, but meh, there will be competition in camp at TE.

"RainX" wrote:



If I'm not mistaken, Donald Lee is making about $3 million per year for the next two years. Given Jermichael's emergence, that's quite a bit of money to pay a backup TE. If management feels that this year or next, Quarless can adequately handle the backup TE role, they can release Lee and save that money.

There's a myriad of different ways to analyze any given pick, but what it boils down to is that management feels this kid can be a good player. Especially in the fifth round and later, most of the picks won't be in the league within a year or two. There is zero sense in drafting based on position or need. Teams are simply taking players they feel can have a career. If it's not the ideal position, so be it.

More importantly, very few, if any people on this board know shit about any of these players, so if it doesn't "make sense" to you or comes off as a "head scratcher", that might possibly be why.
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all_about_da_packers
15 years ago

IIRC, Havner played quite a bit. Especially when Finley was hurt. He played about as much as you'd expect a 3rd TE to play. So, not sure what you're trying to say.

"TengoJuego" wrote:




I should've been more clear; my bad. Personally, I felt Havner's play towards the end of the year slipped - he wasn't anything better than average on his best Sunday.

From that end, I think Quarless makes sense in that he brings competition to the position. He gives you a chance to get improved play from the third TE, who gets some burn as you mentioned.
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