This is the point. I will use me as an example.. I pay for health insurance.. 389 a month.. then get saddled with a 6000 deductible to boot.

How is an average family making $13/hour suppose to afford to see a doctor on top of all their other bills.

It is convenient to say.. fend for yourself, but the system is so far out of whack that reform is needed. Seriously.. $175 to draw blood at Marshfield hospital.. then the tests on top of that cost extra.

It needs reform.. and those in charge of the system aren't going to reform it.. so then if you don't want the government to step in then whom?


My point on Bush.. not listening to the voters isn't something new.. and he made that decision solo.. at a price tag of 9 billion a month and thousands of American lives to protect our interest in oil. But that is acceptable?

It is because of the party he represents I suppose.

Look.. I don't want the government running healthcare.. but the plain and simple fact is someone has to fix the issue.. those profiting from it won't.. I can guarantee you that.

BTW.. what freedom did we lose?

The ability to not have to carry health insurance and allow the taxpayers or other patients of the hospitals pick up the tab because your uninsured person can't afford to pay for it?

To legally drive a car, you are required to carry insurance.. to practice most businesses, you are required to carry insurance.. but we shouldn't have to carry health insurance? Fine.. you don't want to carry insurance.. then have sufficient means in the bank at all times to cover a medical emergency.

Hell they reached inside of the car and placed laws requiring you to wear seat belts.. talk about stepping on your civil rights.. but Obama solely is a dictator. Last time I checked a house full of representatives passed the bill..

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Do I have to use smileys to make it obvious I'm joking? 😛

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So, anyone click the link? What do the results say for you? I was kind of hoping for some feedback on that. lol

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Yay! I'm poor!

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Actually, I've seen Bush called all of the above multiple times. And I'm not arguing against that, either.

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It's a CHOICE to help others. Like, investing/tithing into a cause, going out in the missionary field and physically putting in time, etc. Not forced onto the masses by a bunch of egg-suckers.

You know how in an airplane when those O2 masks drop down, they stress the importance of putting your own mask on first before helping anyone else.. Because.. You know.. Being unconscience doesn't help anyone. It's one's choice to put on that mask if you boil right down to the bone with it. Should be the same with this 'awesome' Obama-care bill.

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Yeah well I choose to use public roads every day and I'm also forced to use them as well. By your idealism, I should only pay my share if I want. It isn't the 1800's, "that America" doesn't exist anymore. We have real problems that are only getting bigger, and we need everyone contributing to solve them. The greed system needs to be put away once and for all.

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Thanks Rourke.

After 10 pages, I'll give up. You guys have a nice thing going here. 🙂

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So are the Clinton administration and U.N. also accomplices to Bush, seeing as how they were also claiming that Saddam still had WMDs? Sigh...

Simple illustration of a president acting against a large segment of the public's wishes... since you know he alone bypassed the senate and house in declaring the US at war. Of course there were other factors.. doesn't change the fact the Bush acted by declaring war.

But our current president is a dictator after the bill went through the proper channels of the government.. albeit championed by the president.

Sigh...

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