I guess we should ban cars also and airplanes because they kill alot more people than guns do. Look at Chicago and how strict their gun laws are working? They have the highest murder rate in the country and why is that? I'll tell you why and that is because you are taking guns away from regular people that only have them for self defense and who has the guns? The criminals aren't going to worry about any gun laws and what they can have and can't have.

Here is something for you to look at:



Read up on this town, so once again tell me about not having guns.


I may sound heartless but I am actually tired of hearing about the shooting, kids die every day why don't they get the media coverage? I was so pissed when they cut into the Sunday night football game for that slimebag of a president, when you knew he was there to use the grieving families for his own good of taking away another one of our rights and thats right to bear arms.


If he uses his powers and pushes a ban thru, it will start the end of the United States of America and the revolution will start. But maybe the jerk in office might want that.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 

Oh yes, the jobs creator argument. (I really wish we still had the eye roll smiley) I might as well just call up Rush instead of talking to you, then I'd get the information right from the jackass' mouth. It's been a real bad year for you fright wingers: lost the election, going to lose on the budget, and now guns. I'm surprised the revolution hasn't started yet.

Please come up with something else that would have more merit that saving some lives by elimating these stupid assault weapons.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 

Do gun manufacturers employ people? Do ammunition manufacturers employ people?

Yes, we lost the election, will lose the budget. And We means all of us, you are just not bright enough to realize it.

And once again for your simpleton mind. Eliminating these weapons, WILL NOT save lives.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 

Why can't we put a cop in every public school? At a minimum, it's one less cop hanging tickets on the taxpayers for traffic violations.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 

But you've yet to provide a purpose these weapons serve other than mass killings. I doubt you come up with anything yet. I understand the fright wings spin on the issue, but I haven't heard a reasonable, legitimate reason why society needs assualt weapons available to it. Work on it and get back to us.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 

Gun manufactureres can just sell hand guns, shot guns, and rifles. No need for assault rifles. You still have not come up with anything relative or useful, dumbass.

I'm willing to pay more taxes, just as long as all the rich fucks are forced to as well. See I'm a real Reaganite, not a Newterite like you. Reagan raised taxes many times when it was necessary. It's necessary right now so get your checkbook ready.

I'm sure you're right - because assault weapons are not prevelent in drive by shootings or gang wars - just redneck target shooting is what they are used for.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 

I hardly doubt James Madison had assault rifles in mind when inking the 2nd amendment so I really would like ignorant people to quit tossing that around out of context. Firing off ... what rifle they have back then ... a musket? versus something like an AK47? There's a bit of a difference there you knuckleheads!

I've thought quite a bit more about this and I don't think abolishing guns entirely is the answer. Killers will find ways to kill, albeit far less efficiently. I would rather see a strong push against assualt rifles and automatic weapons. I'm not a gun expert so my terminology is probably crap. But guns that fall into the mindset of the context of the 2nd amendment ... no issues there with me. It's the guns where you can fire off 14 shots in 90 seconds or hold a trigger an rake down a forest that I feel need to be more adequately outlawed.


Thing is ... we have gun control currently in nearly every state so is MORE really the answer or do we need to look deeper?

I believe Texas is the only state you can conceal a loaded weapon. Again, I'm ignorant on that so I could be mistaken.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

Will eliminating assault weapons stop drive by shootings. No. Will eliminating assault weapons stop nut from shooting up schools and other places. No.

Those are the simple facts you either CAN'T comprehend, or simply refuse to.

You cry about people wasting money on weapons, and you have no problem, giving money to the biggest wasteful spenders there are, government. Talk about a dumbass.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 

When did spraying bullets around equate to target shooting? Just think if all the money wasted by men collecting small militias in their basements was actually used for something useful like feeding the homeless or cancer research?

PFWT - you have some weak ass arguments - please come back with something more concrete. You're wasting our time.

Here, for all of you that like to masturbate with stats, this is interesting:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/20/opinion/blow-on-guns-america-stands-out.html?src=me&ref=general&_r=0 

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 

"Society" doesn't need them.

"Society" has the armed forces to protect itself.

Weapons are necessary to protect those who would resist oppression, including the oppression that gets legitimacy from the bleatings of sheep as long as the sheep are in the "majority."

I think if I could go back in history and remove one thinker from our past, it wouldn't be Mao or Keynes or even Marx. It would be that bloody Frenchman Rousseau who started us down this route with his natterings about "social contracts" and the like.

The state will always have superior force until that moment when its armies decide to join the revolt. That fact has been true ever since humans decided to organize themselves in groups larger than small villages. But the fact that those who would fight oppression are going to be outgunned is not an argument that they should be unarmed.

Funny thing, I seem to remember something about this little country somewhere where every home pretty much has automatic weapons in it. Not semi-automatics, automatics. What's that country again? And, no, I am *not* talking about Israel.

Pfft.

Sorry, I promised to stay under my rock, didn't I. But I effing hate grading and I still have several inches of it needing to be done. That always makes me cranky.

You can all go back to arguing about the wrong issues again.

Originally Posted by: Wade