4PackGirl
15 years ago

Have you all forgotten about Jim Brown?

Please never mention Emmitt Smith again! It is a sin he took Walters record!

"dingus" wrote:



lol - sorry dingus - it just slipped out!!
PackFanWithTwins
15 years ago
He isn't even the greatest since 2000.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
dfosterf
15 years ago
Barry Sanders.

Best ever. Just unbelievable how good.

Every time I watch something like this, I just shake my head (again, for probably the bazillionth time) and simply say, God DAMN!

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I'll bet you that he made almost every fan of every team he ever played against scream at their TV. (Scream at their defense, that is)

You suck! Why can't you friggin' tackle!!?? Thing is, we'd always leave out the most important part...They could tackle, they just couldn't tackle HIM.

I'll also bet there are retired LB's still wondering where the hell he went on some of his plays.




Walter Payton

Even from the nosebleed seats, you could pick him out. Everyone else on both teams seemed to be in slow motion in comparison.

Gayle Sayers

His name doesn't come up as often as it should. I'm not going to argue with anyone that wants to put him ahead of Walter.

Jim Brown

What an unstoppable force. You can put him anywhere from 2nd to here without me flipping out about it.

Emmitt Smith

Because he earned it. This is begrudging on my part, but true.
Zero2Cool
15 years ago
Peterson is no where close to even being in the top 10 best all time running backs in the NFL history. And I like Peterson, a lot, except his uniform colors are foul.

Barry Sanders was the greatest RUNNER of all time, not running back, but pure runner. No one can duplicate the moves he had or his vision. I will argue anyone, anytime any day of the week on this issue. I will win.

Walter Payton and Earl Campbell and Jim Brown were punishing running backs with Payton and Campbell having moves to make people miss as well. Gale Sayers was very smooth and to me looked like silk gliding on grass between defenders.

I think the best all around, running back of all time was Walter Payton. He could run people over, he could make them miss, he could receive out of the backfield, he could blitz pick up and in my opinion was the complete package at RB.

I think Bo Jackson was another great running back.

Christian Okoye was one of the most punishing running backs I remember seeing.

Many have forgotten the man who donned the '20' prior to Barry, Bill Sims. I think he was a great talent as well, but injuries shortened his career.
This is what he's most famous for.
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Rockmolder
15 years ago
This thread needs some Juice.

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He's no Barry Sanders, but from time to time, you had to wonder if his legs where attached to his body normally. Just look at 0:45. He's swinging around like a rag doll.
Wade
  • Wade
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15 years ago
I am not going to argue with Zero again on this one. :)

Below are ten I would put well above Peterson. And below I've highlighted all those currently in the Hall of Fame that I would put above him.

1A. Barry Sanders.
1B. Jim Brown.

3. Gale Sayers.

4. Walter Payton.

5. Erik Dickerson.

6. Earl Campbell.

7. Frank Gifford.

8. LaDanian Tomlinson.

9. Jim Taylor

10. Leroy Kelly.


Heck, if I were to go by the "fucked Packers over" category, AP wouldn't even be the top Viking RB on by list. He'd be third behind Chuck Foreman and Fran "I'm still as big an asshole as I was when I was a player" Tarkenton.

(And, just to prove, to quote Claude Rains, that I'm a rank sentimentalist, let me add the one from the top of my woulda/coulda/shoulda file, Eddie Lee Ivery.)

Hall of Famers by Position (from HoF website)

Running Backs and Quarterbacks
Pre-Modern Era: Running Backs and Quarterbacks (24)
Jimmy Conzelman (QB) # 1920-1929 Bill Dudley (HB) 1942, 1945-1951, 1953 Harold (Red) Grange (HB) 1925-1934 Earl (Curly) Lambeau (HB) # 1919-1929 Sid Luckman (QB) 1939-1950 John (Blood) McNally (HB) 1925-1938 Cliff Battles (HB) 1932-1937 Tony Canadeo (HB) 1941-1944, 1946-1952 Earl (Dutch) Clark (QB) 1931-1932, 1934-1938 John (Paddy) Driscoll (QB) 1920-1929 Joe Guyon (HB) 1919-1925, 1927 Arnie Herber (QB) 1930-1940, 1944-1945 Clarke Hinkle (FB) 1932-1941 Ernie Nevers (FB) 1926-1927, 1929-1931 Jim Thorpe (HB) 1915-1917, 1919-1926, 1928 Bronko Nagurski (FB) 1930-1937, 1943 Clarence (Ace) Parker (QB) 1937-141, 1945-1946 Fritz Pollard (HB) 1919-1926 Ken Strong (HB) 1929-1937, 1939, 1944-1947 Steve Van Buren (HB) 1944-1951 Sammy Baugh (QB) 1937-1952 Alphonse (Tuffy) Leemans (HB-FB) 1936-1943 George McAfee (HB) 1940-1941, 1945-1950 Benny Friedman 1927-1934
Modern Era: Halfbacks-Fullbacks (25)
Marcus Allen (RB) 1982-1997 Jim Brown (FB) 1957-1965 Earl Campbell (RB) 1978-1985 Larry Csonka (FB) 1968-1979 Eric Dickerson (RB) 1983-1993 Tony Dorsett (RB) 1977-1988 Frank Gifford (HB-FL) 1952-1960, 1962-1964 Franco Harris (RB) 1972-1984 Paul Hornung (HB) 1957-1962, 1964-1966 Leroy Kelly (RB) 1964-1973 Hugh McElhenny (HB) 1952-1964 Walter Payton (RB) 1975-1987 John Henry Johnson (FB) 1954-1966 Marion Motley (FB) 1946-1953, 1955 Charley Trippi (HB) 1947-1955 Doak Walker (HB) 1950-1955 O.J. Simpson (RB) 1969-1979Lenny Moore (HB) 1956-1967 John Riggins (RB) 1971-1979, 1981-1985 Gale Sayers (HB) 1965-1971 Thurman Thomas 1988-2000 Jim Taylor (FB) 1958-1967 Joe Perry (FB) 1948-1963 Ollie Matson (HB) 1952, 1954-1966 Barry Sanders (RB) 1989-1998
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
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The_Green_Ninja
15 years ago

I am not going to argue with Zero again on this one. :)

Below are ten I would put well above Peterson. And below I've highlighted all those currently in the Hall of Fame that I would put above him.

1A. Barry Sanders.
1B. Jim Brown.

3. Gale Sayers.

4. Walter Payton.

5. Erik Dickerson.

6. Earl Campbell.

7. Frank Gifford.

8. LaDanian Tomlinson.

9. Jim Taylor

10. Leroy Kelly.


Heck, if I were to go by the "fucked Packers over" category, AP wouldn't even be the top Viking RB on by list. He'd be third behind Chuck Foreman and Fran "I'm still as big an asshole as I was when I was a player" Tarkenton.

(And, just to prove, to quote Claude Rains, that I'm a rank sentimentalist, let me add the one from the top of my woulda/coulda/shoulda file, Eddie Lee Ivery.)

Hall of Famers by Position (from HoF website)

Running Backs and Quarterbacks
Pre-Modern Era: Running Backs and Quarterbacks (24)
Jimmy Conzelman (QB) # 1920-1929 Bill Dudley (HB) 1942, 1945-1951, 1953 Harold (Red) Grange (HB) 1925-1934 Earl (Curly) Lambeau (HB) # 1919-1929 Sid Luckman (QB) 1939-1950 John (Blood) McNally (HB) 1925-1938 Cliff Battles (HB) 1932-1937 Tony Canadeo (HB) 1941-1944, 1946-1952 Earl (Dutch) Clark (QB) 1931-1932, 1934-1938 John (Paddy) Driscoll (QB) 1920-1929 Joe Guyon (HB) 1919-1925, 1927 Arnie Herber (QB) 1930-1940, 1944-1945 Clarke Hinkle (FB) 1932-1941 Ernie Nevers (FB) 1926-1927, 1929-1931 Jim Thorpe (HB) 1915-1917, 1919-1926, 1928 Bronko Nagurski (FB) 1930-1937, 1943 Clarence (Ace) Parker (QB) 1937-141, 1945-1946 Fritz Pollard (HB) 1919-1926 Ken Strong (HB) 1929-1937, 1939, 1944-1947 Steve Van Buren (HB) 1944-1951 Sammy Baugh (QB) 1937-1952 Alphonse (Tuffy) Leemans (HB-FB) 1936-1943 George McAfee (HB) 1940-1941, 1945-1950 Benny Friedman 1927-1934
Modern Era: Halfbacks-Fullbacks (25)
Marcus Allen (RB) 1982-1997 Jim Brown (FB) 1957-1965 Earl Campbell (RB) 1978-1985 Larry Csonka (FB) 1968-1979 Eric Dickerson (RB) 1983-1993 Tony Dorsett (RB) 1977-1988 Frank Gifford (HB-FL) 1952-1960, 1962-1964 Franco Harris (RB) 1972-1984 Paul Hornung (HB) 1957-1962, 1964-1966 Leroy Kelly (RB) 1964-1973 Hugh McElhenny (HB) 1952-1964 Walter Payton (RB) 1975-1987 John Henry Johnson (FB) 1954-1966 Marion Motley (FB) 1946-1953, 1955 Charley Trippi (HB) 1947-1955 Doak Walker (HB) 1950-1955 O.J. Simpson (RB) 1969-1979Lenny Moore (HB) 1956-1967 John Riggins (RB) 1971-1979, 1981-1985 Gale Sayers (HB) 1965-1971 Thurman Thomas 1988-2000 Jim Taylor (FB) 1958-1967 Joe Perry (FB) 1948-1963 Ollie Matson (HB) 1952, 1954-1966 Barry Sanders (RB) 1989-1998

"Wade" wrote:



How the hell is Emitt Smith not on that list?
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Wade
  • Wade
  • Veteran Member
15 years ago

I am not going to argue with Zero again on this one. :)

Below are ten I would put well above Peterson. And below I've highlighted all those currently in the Hall of Fame that I would put above him.

1A. Barry Sanders.
1B. Jim Brown.

3. Gale Sayers.

4. Walter Payton.

5. Erik Dickerson.

6. Earl Campbell.

7. Frank Gifford.

8. LaDanian Tomlinson.

9. Jim Taylor

10. Leroy Kelly.


Heck, if I were to go by the "fucked Packers over" category, AP wouldn't even be the top Viking RB on by list. He'd be third behind Chuck Foreman and Fran "I'm still as big an asshole as I was when I was a player" Tarkenton.

(And, just to prove, to quote Claude Rains, that I'm a rank sentimentalist, let me add the one from the top of my woulda/coulda/shoulda file, Eddie Lee Ivery.)

Hall of Famers by Position (from HoF website)

Running Backs and Quarterbacks
Pre-Modern Era: Running Backs and Quarterbacks (24)
Jimmy Conzelman (QB) # 1920-1929 Bill Dudley (HB) 1942, 1945-1951, 1953 Harold (Red) Grange (HB) 1925-1934 Earl (Curly) Lambeau (HB) # 1919-1929 Sid Luckman (QB) 1939-1950 John (Blood) McNally (HB) 1925-1938 Cliff Battles (HB) 1932-1937 Tony Canadeo (HB) 1941-1944, 1946-1952 Earl (Dutch) Clark (QB) 1931-1932, 1934-1938 John (Paddy) Driscoll (QB) 1920-1929 Joe Guyon (HB) 1919-1925, 1927 Arnie Herber (QB) 1930-1940, 1944-1945 Clarke Hinkle (FB) 1932-1941 Ernie Nevers (FB) 1926-1927, 1929-1931 Jim Thorpe (HB) 1915-1917, 1919-1926, 1928 Bronko Nagurski (FB) 1930-1937, 1943 Clarence (Ace) Parker (QB) 1937-141, 1945-1946 Fritz Pollard (HB) 1919-1926 Ken Strong (HB) 1929-1937, 1939, 1944-1947 Steve Van Buren (HB) 1944-1951 Sammy Baugh (QB) 1937-1952 Alphonse (Tuffy) Leemans (HB-FB) 1936-1943 George McAfee (HB) 1940-1941, 1945-1950 Benny Friedman 1927-1934
Modern Era: Halfbacks-Fullbacks (25)
Marcus Allen (RB) 1982-1997 Jim Brown (FB) 1957-1965 Earl Campbell (RB) 1978-1985 Larry Csonka (FB) 1968-1979 Eric Dickerson (RB) 1983-1993 Tony Dorsett (RB) 1977-1988 Frank Gifford (HB-FL) 1952-1960, 1962-1964 Franco Harris (RB) 1972-1984 Paul Hornung (HB) 1957-1962, 1964-1966 Leroy Kelly (RB) 1964-1973 Hugh McElhenny (HB) 1952-1964 Walter Payton (RB) 1975-1987 John Henry Johnson (FB) 1954-1966 Marion Motley (FB) 1946-1953, 1955 Charley Trippi (HB) 1947-1955 Doak Walker (HB) 1950-1955 O.J. Simpson (RB) 1969-1979Lenny Moore (HB) 1956-1967 John Riggins (RB) 1971-1979, 1981-1985 Gale Sayers (HB) 1965-1971 Thurman Thomas 1988-2000 Jim Taylor (FB) 1958-1967 Joe Perry (FB) 1948-1963 Ollie Matson (HB) 1952, 1954-1966 Barry Sanders (RB) 1989-1998

"The_Green_Ninja" wrote:



How the hell is Emitt Smith not on that list?

"Wade" wrote:



No Jimmie Johnson era-cowgirls allowed?
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
Zero2Cool
15 years ago

Heck, if I were to go by the "fucked Packers over" category, AP wouldn't even be the top Viking RB on by list. He'd be third behind Chuck Foreman and Fran "I'm still as big an asshole as I was when I was a player" Tarkenton.

"Wade" wrote:



If we're talking Vikings, I'd say Robert Smith as well. I remember that dude retiring and me thinking 'oh thank goodness!'.
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Rockmolder
15 years ago

I am not going to argue with Zero again on this one. :)

Below are ten I would put well above Peterson. And below I've highlighted all those currently in the Hall of Fame that I would put above him.

1A. Barry Sanders.
1B. Jim Brown.

3. Gale Sayers.

4. Walter Payton.

5. Erik Dickerson.

6. Earl Campbell.

7. Frank Gifford.

8. LaDanian Tomlinson.

9. Jim Taylor

10. Leroy Kelly.


Heck, if I were to go by the "fucked Packers over" category, AP wouldn't even be the top Viking RB on by list. He'd be third behind Chuck Foreman and Fran "I'm still as big an asshole as I was when I was a player" Tarkenton.

(And, just to prove, to quote Claude Rains, that I'm a rank sentimentalist, let me add the one from the top of my woulda/coulda/shoulda file, Eddie Lee Ivery.)

Hall of Famers by Position (from HoF website)

Running Backs and Quarterbacks
Pre-Modern Era: Running Backs and Quarterbacks (24)
Jimmy Conzelman (QB) # 1920-1929 Bill Dudley (HB) 1942, 1945-1951, 1953 Harold (Red) Grange (HB) 1925-1934 Earl (Curly) Lambeau (HB) # 1919-1929 Sid Luckman (QB) 1939-1950 John (Blood) McNally (HB) 1925-1938 Cliff Battles (HB) 1932-1937 Tony Canadeo (HB) 1941-1944, 1946-1952 Earl (Dutch) Clark (QB) 1931-1932, 1934-1938 John (Paddy) Driscoll (QB) 1920-1929 Joe Guyon (HB) 1919-1925, 1927 Arnie Herber (QB) 1930-1940, 1944-1945 Clarke Hinkle (FB) 1932-1941 Ernie Nevers (FB) 1926-1927, 1929-1931 Jim Thorpe (HB) 1915-1917, 1919-1926, 1928 Bronko Nagurski (FB) 1930-1937, 1943 Clarence (Ace) Parker (QB) 1937-141, 1945-1946 Fritz Pollard (HB) 1919-1926 Ken Strong (HB) 1929-1937, 1939, 1944-1947 Steve Van Buren (HB) 1944-1951 Sammy Baugh (QB) 1937-1952 Alphonse (Tuffy) Leemans (HB-FB) 1936-1943 George McAfee (HB) 1940-1941, 1945-1950 Benny Friedman 1927-1934
Modern Era: Halfbacks-Fullbacks (25)
Marcus Allen (RB) 1982-1997 Jim Brown (FB) 1957-1965 Earl Campbell (RB) 1978-1985 Larry Csonka (FB) 1968-1979 Eric Dickerson (RB) 1983-1993 Tony Dorsett (RB) 1977-1988 Frank Gifford (HB-FL) 1952-1960, 1962-1964 Franco Harris (RB) 1972-1984 Paul Hornung (HB) 1957-1962, 1964-1966 Leroy Kelly (RB) 1964-1973 Hugh McElhenny (HB) 1952-1964 Walter Payton (RB) 1975-1987 John Henry Johnson (FB) 1954-1966 Marion Motley (FB) 1946-1953, 1955 Charley Trippi (HB) 1947-1955 Doak Walker (HB) 1950-1955 O.J. Simpson (RB) 1969-1979Lenny Moore (HB) 1956-1967 John Riggins (RB) 1971-1979, 1981-1985 Gale Sayers (HB) 1965-1971 Thurman Thomas 1988-2000 Jim Taylor (FB) 1958-1967 Joe Perry (FB) 1948-1963 Ollie Matson (HB) 1952, 1954-1966 Barry Sanders (RB) 1989-1998

"Wade" wrote:



How the hell is Emitt Smith not on that list?

"The_Green_Ninja" wrote:



No Jimmie Johnson era-cowgirls allowed?

"Wade" wrote:



What about O.J. Simpson? He has to be pushing for that nr. 6 spot, if you ask me.

If you ask me, Jerome Bettis could make a good push to get on that list, as well. He might not've had the great YPC numbers, always, but that has a lot to do with not having break out speed, more so than being a bad RB. If there's anyone who I would want to have running it up the middle, it'd be him. Or maybe Alstott.

And maybe Refrigerator Perry. Lol.
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