zombieslayer
15 years ago
+1 to TengoJueno and Rockmolder. Both very good posts.

I don't want him, especially for a lot of money. We have some CBs developing right now.

I wanted Sprowles more from them, but then there's that price tag. Do we want to spend $7.3 million for a #2 RB/all-purpose back? Tempting, but that price may be too high for TT.

My personal beliefs are Ted Thompson will try to get us some more pass rush and build up our OL in the offseason.
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blueleopard
15 years ago
I'd still take Cromartie over everybody on the field but Woodson.

The guy's young, huge, and athletic. Who's to say he won't learn from Woodson?
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porky88
15 years ago
I agree that Shawn Merrimen would be a mire desirable player to go and get. I feel that pass rush along with pass protection is the 2nd most valuable asset to a football team. QB being the first. However, Antonio Cromartie would easily become Green Bay's No. 2 corner. He's still very young which fits into the mold of this team and his experience in the 3-4 is a plus. He has a lot of talent. He's as talented as any corner in football minus Darrelle Revis and his cousin Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie.

You get him and this allows you to bring Al Harris back slowly from his injury, but when he does come back, he can go to being the nickel back which is pretty much a starter in this defense anyways considering how much nickel Dom Capers likes to play. It also bumps Tramon Williams to the dime back.

That's quite the upgrade one player could make.

I'm guessing a second round pick gets it done. He may even go for less. Actually, probably less.

My guess is San Diego will get Vincent Jackson and Marcus McNeil locked up long term this off season. I think you could see them part ways with Cromartie and Merrimen. They've drafted replacements for both of those players in Antonie Cason and Larry English.

Again, I'd prefer Merrimen, but I wouldn't rule this out either.
dhazer
15 years ago
I watched the videos but i have seen Harris do the same exact thing a few times. I do have a question and that is who are these so called up and coming cb's and where the hell were they this year? I sure hope your not talking about Bush lol. Porky brought up a good point and that is the Harris injury are we even sure he can come back from it and he isn't a young pup anymore.

I saw we work a deal and get both Merrimen and Cromartie send then a 2nd and 3rd. Hell i even say throw in Bush lol
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zombieslayer
15 years ago

I watched the videos but i have seen Harris do the same exact thing a few times. I do have a question and that is who are these so called up and coming cb's and where the hell were they this year? I sure hope your not talking about Bush lol. Porky brought up a good point and that is the Harris injury are we even sure he can come back from it and he isn't a young pup anymore.

I saw we work a deal and get both Merrimen and Cromartie send then a 2nd and 3rd. Hell i even say throw in Bush lol

"dhazer" wrote:



Williams is going to be a solid CB.
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TengoJuego
15 years ago

I'd still take Cromartie over everybody on the field but Woodson.

The guy's young, huge, and athletic. Who's to say he won't learn from Woodson?

"blueleopard" wrote:



I'd take Harris over Cromartie 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and 365 days out of the year.
15 years ago

I'd still take Cromartie over everybody on the field but Woodson.

The guy's young, huge, and athletic. Who's to say he won't learn from Woodson?

"TengoJuego" wrote:



I'd take Harris over Cromartie 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and 365 days out of the year.

"blueleopard" wrote:

Al Harris is 35 though.
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15 years ago

I'd still take Cromartie over everybody on the field but Woodson.

The guy's young, huge, and athletic. Who's to say he won't learn from Woodson?

"cheeseheads123" wrote:



I'd take Harris over Cromartie 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and 365 days out of the year.

"TengoJuego" wrote:

Al Harris is 35 though.

"blueleopard" wrote:



That's a double-edged sword. You prefer Harris, who consistently gets beat deep against bigger receiver?

Or you prefer Cromartie, who won't tackle a 5-8 RB.
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Rockmolder
15 years ago

I'd still take Cromartie over everybody on the field but Woodson.

The guy's young, huge, and athletic. Who's to say he won't learn from Woodson?

"blueleopard" wrote:



I'd take Harris over Cromartie 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and 365 days out of the year.

"cheeseheads123" wrote:

Al Harris is 35 though.

"TengoJuego" wrote:



That's a double-edged sword. You prefer Harris, who consistently gets beat deep against bigger receiver?

Or you prefer Cromartie, who won't tackle a 5-8 RB.

"blueleopard" wrote:



And who constantly gets beat without safety help.

Cromartie is no shut down corner. Jammer gets a lot closer to that than Cromartie does. I don't want a player who comes up with flashy plays but doesn't shut anyone down. Even worse, he hasn't shown up in the flashy plays department since his break out season in 2007. If anything, I'd like to use that 2nd or something on a rookie CB, rather than getting Cromartie with it. Maybe a team that's desperate for a CB like the 49ers can go after him, but I don't want him here.

I know that he's a kick returner, as well, but so is Perrish Cox, for instance. Again, I'd go with the rookie.

The only way that I'd trade a pick to the Chargers woul be if they wanted to part ways with Merriman... But I made a rant about that one on the first page in this thread.
all_about_da_packers
15 years ago


You get him and this allows you to bring Al Harris back slowly from his injury, but when he does come back, he can go to being the nickel back which is pretty much a starter in this defense anyways considering how much nickel Dom Capers likes to play. It also bumps Tramon Williams to the dime back.

"porky88" wrote:



If you are going to make Al a Nickel CB, you might as well cut him; as Charles Woodson said: "Al don't do nickel" (after the Cowboys loss in 07).

There is a reason that Al came back as starter last year after his injury - despite Tramon playing very well in place of Al.

There is a reason that against the Cowboys in 07, they ran trips bunch formation and made Al play out of the slot - Al's strength in man coverage are most vulnerable from the slot position.

I'd much rather have Merriman, because he comes in and fills an immediate need: pass rusher.
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