Cuz481
14 years ago
We saw tonight how much Al Harris was missed.
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porky88
14 years ago
They took a huge step in the right direction this season, but this game exposed a lot of things for the Packers. They can be lit up fairly easily and they'll need to address their pass defense in the off-season.

They have the guys up front and another year of seasoning will only help them improve, but besides Woodson and Collins, I'm not sure about that secondary.

Bigby is a big hitter, but he's not a coverage man. He's good in run support, but he'll often be out of position and he's not that great in the open field. Jarrett Bush is a special teams demon, but not a nickel back.

Tramon Williams is still a major project. He flashes, but he can't matchup with the big physical receivers. For all the flack Harris gets, he's still playing at a higher level than Williams. Finally, Brandon Underwood has talent, but he's still very raw.

I would add a corner and a safety this year via draft or free agency. Probably the draft. They also need a pass rusher opposite of Matthews. Look at the Cowboys' defense. They became great late because Anthony Spencer finally turned it loose.

They're about where I would expect them to be talent wise after one season. They need to do some things though.
musccy
14 years ago
People will often say "that was the worst ______ I've ever seen" and it losses it's effect...but I honestly think that was the worst I've ever seen our D play.

I honestly don't know what the hell it was..we blitzed-fail, we played dime-fail, we even went with the psycho-fail.

Warner is tough to blitz against, you really need good coverage, and we didn't have that. Bigby's skills and obviously Bush have been two (deserved) lightning rods. I don't know that we can ever expect Tramon to be more than a nickle for reasons that porky alluded to (size) and with Harris/Woody getting old, it's pretty obvious what we need to do this offseason!
Cheesey
14 years ago
We played alot of so-so teams this year, and our D flourished. Then today we faced an offensive juggernaut, and got blown out.
By "blown out", i mean our D, not our O.
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digsthepack
14 years ago
A big part of the secondary issues could be summed up thusly....Atari Bigby. And Giordano is clearly not equipped, but Bigby is a starter. Safety will be an off-season priority, as is a bone rocking LB.

Capers seems to have pulled the reins back a bit far due to the 3rd and 4th guys on the field because of all the CB injuries, as well.
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14 years ago
disgusting, really. was one of the worst performances by a single unit i've ever seen.

I agree with Twinkiegorilla.

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dhazer
14 years ago
Well to start with we need to replace Bigby, we can't count on him for anything but getting injured. He is a big hitter but thats what he tries to do all the time and i see him miss alot of times. We will need cb help and alot of it, as was stated woodson and harris aren't getting younger and our backups just plain suck. I heard people saying well we get back 3 dbs next year from injury and i say so what Blackmon is not a DB he is a returner.

We still have alot of gaps on defense to fill but hey we can start the Bustin Harrell watch now 😉
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
I was calling for Bigby to be cut all through the preseason. I'm sick of watching him hurl himself at players' knee, looking for the bone-jarring hit, only to miss entirely.
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14 years ago
Things started off poorly, and instead of trusting each other and staying focused on their jobs, everyone was trying to help out everywhere else. You could see the scheme break down, with ILBs abandoning the middle of the field to help a 3rd or 4th corner cover a guy, etc.
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shield4life
14 years ago
Trade Bigby get a pick or something just get him out we need a play making safety / game changing.
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