Rockmolder
15 years ago
Yesterday we saw the Packers defense come out in a new formation. The 1-5-5.

Or "Psycho", if you will.

In this formation, the defense uses just 1 defensive lineman, while having 5 linebackers on the field, with 5 defensive backs behind that.

It worked to perfection. Out of the seven times that Capers called this formation on 3rd downs, the Bears converted only once.

The first and most noticeable thing about the Psycho package is the controlled chaos. The single d-lineman, Jenkins in our case, usually lines up over center. The linebackers pretty much don't stop moving. They keep going in motion, showing blitz, backing off, lining up as an OLB over the OT, then moving back further inside.

Obviously, it makes for a defense that is very hard to read for the QB.

Secondly, it gets a lot of speed on the field. Your 320 pound o-linemen will obviously be stronger than most LBs, but with all that speed and confusion, you can easily miss an assignment or just get beaten out by a quick speed rushing move.

Of course, the package has some downsides, as well. First of all, you take out your own big guys, leaving those same speedy LBs to battle those big guys up front. Now, like I said, when you beat them quick with a speed move or confuse them enough to make them miss an assignment, you're getting to the QB quickly enough. When you don't, though, you won't have the guys there to keep battling and still get to the QB. Often, your LBs will be overpowered by the linemen.

Secondly, it's very susceptible to a draw, or regular run play. When an offensive line can already get you 4 yards deep into the defense, the back doesn't have to do that much. Of course, this is a pass rushing formation, so this is one con that you usually don't have to worry about.

Before we take a look at the pictures, look at the personnel that we're using in the Psycho.

First of all, we get our best pass rushing d-linemen in with Jenkins.

Behind him, we come out with Clay Matthews, Nick Barnett, A.J. Hawk, Brandon Chillar and Desmond Bishop.

No Brad Jones at all in this one.

We play the regular secondary, with Charles Woodson, Tramon Williams, Jarrett Bush, Nick Collins and Atari Bigby.

This gives us a great balance in a mainly pass rushing situation. Obviously, you have the 5 nickel defensive backs on the field, but we get a great coverage LBer out there in Chillar, a decent coverage ILB in Hawk, two good blitzers in Matthews and Bishop and finally Barnett, who can do it all.

Lets take a look at the first picture.

UserPostedImage

Yes, great editing, I know.

This is all pre-snap motion, but timed just perfectly before Cutler wants to snap the ball. We change from a regular cover 1 formation, into a cover 2 and overloading the right side of their O-line. Because of the perfect timing, Cutler doesn't make any adjustments.

UserPostedImage

Like you can see here, we have an overload to the right. This is a second or so before the ball gets snapped. All the guys on the right side are going to blitz, with A.J. Hawk and Brandon Chillar playing in a shallow zone.

UserPostedImage

The Bears O-line shifts to the right quite effectively, but with Jenkins commanding a double team, used to spreading the line out, and the RT having to kickslide more than 5 yards in a short time, they completely fail in blocking Woodson, who gets around the edge and gets the quick pressure.

The play ends in Cutler getting rid of the ball quickly, throwing it incomplete, as Hawk has the coverage on Bennett.

This is one of the ways in which Dom Capers dials up some big pressure, while only bringing 5, defeating 6 blockers.

I hope, and think, that the Psycho package is here to stay.

[align=right]Detlev Dimmitry[/align] [url=index.php?name=Pro_News&aid=125]full article[/url].
Scottish_Packer
15 years ago
Great post +1.

I'll be looking out for Psycho when we play the steelers.
UserPostedImage
PackFanWithTwins
15 years ago
+1 for this break down. This was not the first time we have used this formation. We used it last week, and I know we have early in the season. I think this is something Capers really wanted to use more, but the Chillar injury limited it.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
Pack93z
15 years ago

+1 for this break down. This was not the first time we have used this formation. We used it last week, and I know we have early in the season. I think this is something Capers really wanted to use more, but the Chillar injury limited it.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



I was going to say that as well.. we used this early in the season..

Nice Job Rock though on the article.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
all_about_da_packers
15 years ago

This was not the first time we have used this formation. We used it last week, and I know we have early in the season.

"pack93z" wrote:



I was going to say that as well.. we used this early in the season..

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:




You're confusing that with the 2 D-linemen package, which we have used in the past. We used that package last week. I know Jenkins was one of the D-linemen, and I think Raji was the other.

This is the first time the 1-5-5 Psycho was used. Jenkins was the sole D-linemen out there, with 5 LBs.
The NFL: Where Greg Jennings Happens.
PackFanWithTwins
15 years ago

This was not the first time we have used this formation. We used it last week, and I know we have early in the season.

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:



I was going to say that as well.. we used this early in the season..

"pack93z" wrote:




You're confusing that with the 2 D-linemen package, which we have used in the past. We used that package last week. I know Jenkins was one of the D-linemen, and I think Raji was the other.

This is the first time the 1-5-5 Psycho was used. Jenkins was the sole D-linemen out there, with 5 LBs.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



I know we have used it as close as last week. I remember Raji was the lone lineman that time. I don't have that game recorded to go back to though. And early in the season, I remember either a thread or some posts referencing the 1-5-5 also.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
all_about_da_packers
15 years ago

I know we have used it as close as last week. I remember Raji was the lone lineman that time. I don't have that game recorded to go back to though. And early in the season, I remember either a thread or some posts referencing the 1-5-5 also.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



It was 2 down-linemen in the game, but Jenkins was playing with his hand up.

I should have clarified that. It was 2 linemen in, but only one lined up on the LOS.
The NFL: Where Greg Jennings Happens.
PackFanWithTwins
15 years ago

I know we have used it as close as last week. I remember Raji was the lone lineman that time. I don't have that game recorded to go back to though. And early in the season, I remember either a thread or some posts referencing the 1-5-5 also.

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:



It was 2 down-linemen in the game, but Jenkins was playing with his hand up.

I should have clarified that. It was 2 linemen in, but only one lined up on the LOS.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



Since I don't have proof to what I remember I will leave it, I just don't see Capers saving the formation for Chicago. I will go back and watch past games closer. But for now, will believe you.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
Rockmolder
15 years ago

+1 for this break down. This was not the first time we have used this formation. We used it last week, and I know we have early in the season. I think this is something Capers really wanted to use more, but the Chillar injury limited it.

"pack93z" wrote:



I was going to say that as well.. we used this early in the season..

Nice Job Rock though on the article.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



If that's true, I totally missed it. I thought this was the first time that we used this package. Could be wrong, though.

And yes, I do remember some talk about this in the pre-season. I think it was an interview that Dom gave, where he was talking about the different subpackages he'd run.
PackFanWithTwins
15 years ago
I knew I saw it. At least the 1 Dlineman was used against Baltimore.

Last play before half. against the hail mary 🙂
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
Fan Shout
wpr (10h) : yay
Zero2Cool (12h) : Mark Murphy says Steelers likely to protect Packers game. Meaning, no Ireland
Zero2Cool (15h) : Struggling to figure out what text editor options are needed and which are 'nice to have'
Mucky Tundra (17h) : *CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP*
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : WR who said he'd break Xavier Worthy 40 time...and ran slower than you
Mucky Tundra (2-Apr) : Who?
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : Texas’ WR Isaiah Bond is scheduled to visit the Bills, Browns, Chiefs, Falcons, Packers and Titans starting next week.
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : Spotting ball isn't changing, only measuring distance is, Which wasn't the issue.
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : The spotting of the ball IS the issue. Not the chain gang.
Mucky Tundra (2-Apr) : Will there be a tracker on the ball or something?
Zero2Cool (1-Apr) : uh oh
Martha Careful (1-Apr) : Too bad camera's can't spot the ball as well.
Mucky Tundra (1-Apr) : So will the chain gang be gone completely or will they still be around as a backup or whatever?
Zero2Cool (1-Apr) : The method for measuring first downs in the NFL will switch from chain gangs to camera-based technology in 2025, the league announced.
Martha Careful (1-Apr) : A big step in the right direction. Just put in the college system is very very good.
Zero2Cool (1-Apr) : NFL has passed a rule that allows both teams to possess the ball in OT during the regular season
Zero2Cool (1-Apr) : Touchbacks on kickoffs will now bring the ball to the 35-yard line.
beast (31-Mar) : It might of gotten more popular recently, but braiding hair (even men) in certain cultures goes back for centuries.
Martha Careful (30-Mar) : Is men braiding their hair a new style thing? Watching the NCAA men's tournament many players have done
Zero2Cool (29-Mar) : Ha. Well, it'd be nice for folks to reset their own password. Via validated email 😏
beast (29-Mar) : Monopoly was supposed to be an educational game, that show how evil capitalism was and how we should avoid it
beast (29-Mar) : Lol, I was thinking username would be better, as then I wouldn't have to keep an email up to date lol 😂
beast (29-Mar) : Zero2Cool (25-Mar) : I was thinking email because I think it'll make folks keep it up todate lol
wpr (29-Mar) : sure is
Zero2Cool (29-Mar) : Monopoly is a rip off of The Landlord's Game
wpr (27-Mar) : 28 days until the draft
earthquake (27-Mar) : Which seemed strange to my 9 year old self, that you could be a fan for a team other than the one you play for
earthquake (27-Mar) : Nothing eventful happened, other than it being clear that he was a bengals fan
earthquake (27-Mar) : And we went and hung out with him one afternoon, I must have been 9 or so
earthquake (27-Mar) : That’s wild, when I was a kid my friend lived in the same apartment complex in De Pere
Mucky Tundra (27-Mar) : Only career highspot was a 200 yard rushing game while playing for the Cardinals
Mucky Tundra (27-Mar) : He is a former Packer. Drafted out of Northern Illinois. Didn't do much in GB.
dfosterf (26-Mar) : Despicable
Zero2Cool (26-Mar) : Former NFL. I think Packers too
Zero2Cool (26-Mar) : NFL RB Leshon Johnson has been charged in a massive dog fighting operation, with the FBI seizing over 190 Pit Bulls
Mucky Tundra (26-Mar) : Some real irony of a QB as short as Wilson playing for the Giants
Mucky Tundra (26-Mar) : Giants country, let's be the tall beings of lore!
Mucky Tundra (26-Mar) : Russell Wilson signs with the Giants.
Zero2Cool (25-Mar) : I was thinking email because I think it'll make folks keep it up todate lol
wpr (25-Mar) : I don't think there is a significant difference. I use a user name for many. Others email.
Martha Careful (25-Mar) : email
Zero2Cool (25-Mar) : would it be better to use EMAIL or USERNAME to log into a site?
wpr (25-Mar) : Thanks Zero
Zero2Cool (24-Mar) : New forum has the ability to Thank a post now.
beast (24-Mar) : And the only time they have won the Championship in an even year, was the first time they did, in 2006.
beast (24-Mar) : Since 2007, there have been 10 odd numbered years, Wisconsin Women have won the Championship in 7 of those 10 odd numbered years.
buckeyepackfan (24-Mar) : Congratulations Lady Badger Hockey Team. NATIONAL CHAMPIONS!!
Zero2Cool (23-Mar) : I don't think it's completed yet. it was just announced last month, right?
dhazer (23-Mar) : did netflix ever release the Packers documentary
Zero2Cool (21-Mar) : And it is glorious!
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 12 @ 3:30 PM
Eagles
Recent Topics
12h / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / Zero2Cool

8-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

2-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

2-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

1-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

1-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

31-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

30-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

29-Mar / Random Babble / wpr

28-Mar / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / dfosterf

28-Mar / Random Babble / Martha Careful

26-Mar / Random Babble / Mucky Tundra

25-Mar / Random Babble / Martha Careful

24-Mar / Random Babble / packerfanoutwest

24-Mar / Random Babble / Zero2Cool

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.