Rockmolder
15 years ago
Yesterday we saw the Packers defense come out in a new formation. The 1-5-5.

Or "Psycho", if you will.

In this formation, the defense uses just 1 defensive lineman, while having 5 linebackers on the field, with 5 defensive backs behind that.

It worked to perfection. Out of the seven times that Capers called this formation on 3rd downs, the Bears converted only once.

The first and most noticeable thing about the Psycho package is the controlled chaos. The single d-lineman, Jenkins in our case, usually lines up over center. The linebackers pretty much don't stop moving. They keep going in motion, showing blitz, backing off, lining up as an OLB over the OT, then moving back further inside.

Obviously, it makes for a defense that is very hard to read for the QB.

Secondly, it gets a lot of speed on the field. Your 320 pound o-linemen will obviously be stronger than most LBs, but with all that speed and confusion, you can easily miss an assignment or just get beaten out by a quick speed rushing move.

Of course, the package has some downsides, as well. First of all, you take out your own big guys, leaving those same speedy LBs to battle those big guys up front. Now, like I said, when you beat them quick with a speed move or confuse them enough to make them miss an assignment, you're getting to the QB quickly enough. When you don't, though, you won't have the guys there to keep battling and still get to the QB. Often, your LBs will be overpowered by the linemen.

Secondly, it's very susceptible to a draw, or regular run play. When an offensive line can already get you 4 yards deep into the defense, the back doesn't have to do that much. Of course, this is a pass rushing formation, so this is one con that you usually don't have to worry about.

Before we take a look at the pictures, look at the personnel that we're using in the Psycho.

First of all, we get our best pass rushing d-linemen in with Jenkins.

Behind him, we come out with Clay Matthews, Nick Barnett, A.J. Hawk, Brandon Chillar and Desmond Bishop.

No Brad Jones at all in this one.

We play the regular secondary, with Charles Woodson, Tramon Williams, Jarrett Bush, Nick Collins and Atari Bigby.

This gives us a great balance in a mainly pass rushing situation. Obviously, you have the 5 nickel defensive backs on the field, but we get a great coverage LBer out there in Chillar, a decent coverage ILB in Hawk, two good blitzers in Matthews and Bishop and finally Barnett, who can do it all.

Lets take a look at the first picture.

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Yes, great editing, I know.

This is all pre-snap motion, but timed just perfectly before Cutler wants to snap the ball. We change from a regular cover 1 formation, into a cover 2 and overloading the right side of their O-line. Because of the perfect timing, Cutler doesn't make any adjustments.

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Like you can see here, we have an overload to the right. This is a second or so before the ball gets snapped. All the guys on the right side are going to blitz, with A.J. Hawk and Brandon Chillar playing in a shallow zone.

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The Bears O-line shifts to the right quite effectively, but with Jenkins commanding a double team, used to spreading the line out, and the RT having to kickslide more than 5 yards in a short time, they completely fail in blocking Woodson, who gets around the edge and gets the quick pressure.

The play ends in Cutler getting rid of the ball quickly, throwing it incomplete, as Hawk has the coverage on Bennett.

This is one of the ways in which Dom Capers dials up some big pressure, while only bringing 5, defeating 6 blockers.

I hope, and think, that the Psycho package is here to stay.

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Scottish_Packer
15 years ago
Great post +1.

I'll be looking out for Psycho when we play the steelers.
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PackFanWithTwins
15 years ago
+1 for this break down. This was not the first time we have used this formation. We used it last week, and I know we have early in the season. I think this is something Capers really wanted to use more, but the Chillar injury limited it.
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Pack93z
15 years ago

+1 for this break down. This was not the first time we have used this formation. We used it last week, and I know we have early in the season. I think this is something Capers really wanted to use more, but the Chillar injury limited it.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



I was going to say that as well.. we used this early in the season..

Nice Job Rock though on the article.
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all_about_da_packers
15 years ago

This was not the first time we have used this formation. We used it last week, and I know we have early in the season.

"pack93z" wrote:



I was going to say that as well.. we used this early in the season..

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:




You're confusing that with the 2 D-linemen package, which we have used in the past. We used that package last week. I know Jenkins was one of the D-linemen, and I think Raji was the other.

This is the first time the 1-5-5 Psycho was used. Jenkins was the sole D-linemen out there, with 5 LBs.
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PackFanWithTwins
15 years ago

This was not the first time we have used this formation. We used it last week, and I know we have early in the season.

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:



I was going to say that as well.. we used this early in the season..

"pack93z" wrote:




You're confusing that with the 2 D-linemen package, which we have used in the past. We used that package last week. I know Jenkins was one of the D-linemen, and I think Raji was the other.

This is the first time the 1-5-5 Psycho was used. Jenkins was the sole D-linemen out there, with 5 LBs.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



I know we have used it as close as last week. I remember Raji was the lone lineman that time. I don't have that game recorded to go back to though. And early in the season, I remember either a thread or some posts referencing the 1-5-5 also.
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all_about_da_packers
15 years ago

I know we have used it as close as last week. I remember Raji was the lone lineman that time. I don't have that game recorded to go back to though. And early in the season, I remember either a thread or some posts referencing the 1-5-5 also.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



It was 2 down-linemen in the game, but Jenkins was playing with his hand up.

I should have clarified that. It was 2 linemen in, but only one lined up on the LOS.
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PackFanWithTwins
15 years ago

I know we have used it as close as last week. I remember Raji was the lone lineman that time. I don't have that game recorded to go back to though. And early in the season, I remember either a thread or some posts referencing the 1-5-5 also.

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:



It was 2 down-linemen in the game, but Jenkins was playing with his hand up.

I should have clarified that. It was 2 linemen in, but only one lined up on the LOS.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



Since I don't have proof to what I remember I will leave it, I just don't see Capers saving the formation for Chicago. I will go back and watch past games closer. But for now, will believe you.
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Rockmolder
15 years ago

+1 for this break down. This was not the first time we have used this formation. We used it last week, and I know we have early in the season. I think this is something Capers really wanted to use more, but the Chillar injury limited it.

"pack93z" wrote:



I was going to say that as well.. we used this early in the season..

Nice Job Rock though on the article.

"PackFanWithTwins" wrote:



If that's true, I totally missed it. I thought this was the first time that we used this package. Could be wrong, though.

And yes, I do remember some talk about this in the pre-season. I think it was an interview that Dom gave, where he was talking about the different subpackages he'd run.
PackFanWithTwins
15 years ago
I knew I saw it. At least the 1 Dlineman was used against Baltimore.

Last play before half. against the hail mary 🙂
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